I was coming out of the lots and there was this 5.0 GT. Last fox platform for the 79-93 platform. Gauges and the works on the inside. The serious interior for what I heard at the light and the pull at the light. Got behind the 5.0 at the light and listened. Do I play or not to play. I heard a lumpy cam. Not to big not to small. Maybe like the B series Ford cams. He takes off from the light going towards the freeway. Bang he guns it just a little to about 45 in a 35. For sure he has headers and exhaust. No way to get that awesome V8 sound any other way. He even shifted kind of early at 45 to go to fourth. I was counting. 3.73's I thought. I get behind him on the on ramp to the freeway after a flybye to get him interested with a smile as I slowed down. On the on ramp I got stuck behind him so just after he gunned it I gunned it. No contest when I hit VTEC I would have rammed him up the A$$. So I waited till we got on the freeway but no real luck I gunned it around him and got in front. He followed me around the corner to the next transfer ramp but I didn't get on it to hard because of the traffic. We got around all the traffic and I pull out to a clear lane. I see he follows just a car behid me. I drop to second and smash the gas. I see his front jump at the same time I shift to second but he never catches up. I was gone. Literally gone. I left him somewhere behind me. I could see him trying in the rear view but he was getting smaller and smaller. I even had a pasenger in the car. My 102 pound wife and some shopping. I just got off at the next exit cause he gave up. I would have too if I was him.

 

So in other words he didn't have all of the mods you suggested...

 

I have a very strong running car. I have kept up within just a few cars of both of my friends cars. Both of my friends don't leave me completely in the dust and they run high 12's and low 13's. He had a minimum of gears, intake, headers, and exhaust. The cam was just a guess becuase you don't get lopey at all with the stock motor. If he had put in a B303 and nothing else to the motor there isn't all that big of a gain. I know when he was shifting so I know there was gears involved. If a car is shifting two times to almost three to our one there is defenitley more than the 9k rpm of our cars involoved. I have built just too many of these da$n things. Seven to be exact. It was also a GT. There is a little more weight there. The other thing is I was right in VTEC when I shifted. I had no lag time to power band. Makes a big difference when racing someone. If he shifted to high thinking he could take me easy that is his mistake. But then again I may be wrong. I am just guessing based on the reactions of his car. He may have just been the worst driver ever. Either way when I passed him on the freeway he gave me the WTF look.

I raced my other friends GT with 3.55's, I/H/E and ended up 5 cars in front when the race was finished. This was from a 30mph roll. It wasn't interesting enough to post. Yes, we did go over 125 and no he did not gain.

 

You're stock right?? So even with an extremely strong factory example you're maybe at 215rwhp... I/H/E + B/E/X303 in a 5.0 is a 220-230rwhp car.. Throw 3.73's into the mix, and it's going to be a tough victory for any stock S2K. Certainly not the slaughtering you gave him...

 

The race was what it was. I was ahead of my friend by five cars in his 5.0. My friend with the SR runs mid to low thirteens and only gains a car and a half on me. All I have is a Comptech intake. That is it. I have hung with cars that I wouldn't think possible but I do. Power from a roll and a 1/4 mile time are two different things. So don't get them confused please. Believe me or not I don't really care. I just kept pulling with each shift on that guy. That guy lost and I won. Period. If this post was reversed I would be hard to believe it myself.

 

wow nice driving....you should go visit the tracks some time, and get some time slips
its a bit hard to beat a modded mustang like that

 

Never said I didn't believe you, just that maybe the guy didn't have all the mods you thought he did.. For example how did you know he had headers?? The difference in sound between a 5.0 with headers + offroad H + catback, and a 5.0 with just an offroad H + catback is minimal at best... I never said anything about power from a roll versus power through the 1/4, so what made you think I got them confused?? You can tell a lot about a cars roll on performance by looking at 1/4 trap speed versus ET, so I wouldn't necessarily say they are not related.. Either way, you beat the driver and probably the car as well, but that doesn't mean you have some magical S2000 that's faster than all others..

 

cravnpup
I probably just misunderstood you. Not hard to do. After all we are not talking face to face and we rely so much on the perception of the sound from someone to determine intent. My apologies. Now back to business. I don't think I have a magical S2000 just have been very lucky with the results from the races I have had. I have beat cars I didn't think I should and even been closer to cars I didn't thinkI should have. As soon as my helmet comes in and I get a weekend off I want to see what kind of MPH the S is putting out. This will give me a better understanding of how and why. Maybe even a trip to the dyno. As fro the headers. Standard headers are a clean non raspy sound even when an X-pipe or other is installed. The muffler usually gives the car a throaty and loud sound where the header gives it more of a rasp to it. This car had both sounds. I may be wrong because I never talked to the guy but that is what I thought I heard. Either way headers won't make or break the encounter.

I think the biggest + was the fact I went straight into VTEC where most of the races some of us get we are caught (how do I say, with our pants down).

 

I'd agree that headers alone wouldn't make or break your encounter. I'll also agree to the "cleaner" sound from headers resulting from greater exhaust pulse separation. However, in my old 2000 GT my longtubes did nothing to the sound that could be identified by the human ear. I suspect this was due to the already obnoxiously loud Magnaflow exhaust. At any rate, it'll be good to find out what sort of traps you're actually getting, who knows maybe you do have a factory freak???

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wannabuy
I was coming out of the lots and there was this 5.0 GT.