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JDMpearlwhyteZ Jun 13, 2016 05:19 PM

AP1 Full Bolt Ons vs AP2 Full Bolt Ons
 
Did a few pulls with my friend in our Bolt On S2000's. He couldn't hear my horn over his loud ass exhaust.

(First run I hit the limiter in second gear)

His Car:
- 02 AP1 with exterior AP2 conversion and JDM AP1 headlights
- Level7 Intake
- Science Of Speed Big Bore Throttle Body
- Berk Technology Header
- J's Racing 70RR titanium header back
- Gutted trunk
No Dyno Numbers

My Car: (camera car as well)
- 05 AP2 with Mugen Hardtop (2986lbs with driver)
- AEM V2 Cold Air Intake
- Ballade Sports 70mm Big Bore Throttle Body
- Private Label Header
- Berk Technology 70mm Test Pipe
- J's Racing 70RS titanium cat back
Dyno Numbers 223whp & 158wtq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnzOAhbu4QM

Mijae007 Jun 13, 2016 09:06 PM

Are either of you guys tuned? Also is the black one the ap1?

JDMpearlwhyteZ Jun 14, 2016 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Mijae007 (Post 23992689)
Are either of you guys tuned? Also is the black one the ap1?

The black one is an AP1, neither of us are tuned yet.

Mijae007 Jun 14, 2016 04:58 PM

Man the ap1 pulls pretty hard on your car. When i raced my boys ap1 in my ap2 i pulled on him as hard as the black ap1 did on you. And i was completely stock and he had intake and exhaust. Now that i have flashpro and tuned im definitely faster. I pulled on a 2010 civic si very easily just the other day. Maybe he has different gearing? You shouldnt be losing that bad especially with similar mods

JDMpearlwhyteZ Jun 14, 2016 08:38 PM

I've never lost to any other s2000 except for his.

His car just rolls out, idk what gears he has but we both assume they're stock.

silverstonejedi Jun 15, 2016 06:22 PM

Something is weird...Definitely didn't expect this outcome.

K20iVTEC Jun 16, 2016 04:06 PM

how many pounds do you think he lost by gutting the trunk? is your 70rs a single or dual? the piping diameter of the level 7 intake is bigger than the v2 and its stepped in the optimal place which probably makes more power especially paired to a bigger throttle body. are both of your intake manifolds matched to the intake bore diameter?

S2KERRP2 Jun 17, 2016 02:36 PM

that ap1 probably has 4.77 gears.

no way same mods it will pull a flashpro ap2. even a ap2 with just a test pipe will pull pretty hard on it.

JDMpearlwhyteZ Jun 17, 2016 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by K20iVTEC (Post 23995261)
how many pounds do you think he lost by gutting the trunk? is your 70rs a single or dual? the piping diameter of the level 7 intake is bigger than the v2 and its stepped in the optimal place which probably makes more power especially paired to a bigger throttle body. are both of your intake manifolds matched to the intake bore diameter?

We both have a titanium single exhaust, neither of us have port matched intake manifolds but I know the SOS one is tapered to where it I think is only 2.2mm larger than the stock IM at the opening.



Originally Posted by S2KERRP2 (Post 23996001)
that ap1 probably has 4.77 gears. no way same mods it will pull a flashpro ap2. even a ap2 with just a test pipe will pull pretty hard on it.

I don't have flashpro though. Neither car is tuned.

I don't think has gears because in 3rd gear at 60mph he said he's at like 4.5K. Or something to where he says it's too low to go from 3rd at 60mph. Which I thought was odd. But I haven't driven an ap1 in a while to test the theory.

The first 60 roll he went from 2nd gear and had to shift immediately.

Danny_Flash12 Jun 17, 2016 05:14 PM

It's the all red interior!


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