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Old Aug 17, 2001 | 11:31 PM
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Hrmmm, i was at a light with a boxter S with dealer plates next to me. I wasnt sure if he was gonna race. So i took a regular start and he got like 1-1.5 car jump at the light. So i punched it and ran it to 8gs RPM in 1st gear. he was still ahead as i grab 2nd. As i got into 2nd about 7000RPM or so i caught up. grabbed 3rd and pulled.
Hmmm i dunno i guess i beat him. i always thought Boxter S' were fast
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 12:52 AM
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sounds like a regular boxster... boxster S has a dual exhuast pipe but they come out the same port.. regular just has 1 pipe.
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 11:21 AM
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The porsche had the "S" after the word boxster on the back
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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Then he either wasn't racing, isn't a very good driver, or he bought a plastic "S" and stuck it there. S's are easy to tell by their unique exhaust (although some regular Boxster owners mount the S exhaust) and by the 3 hole opening in the front nose and bright red brake calipers. Most likely you raced a regular Boxster and not an S or else something is wrong with that guy's car. You would never pull on a normal S with a decent driver that way.
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 03:11 PM
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Yes it was an S. The exhuast was different, split tips, and red calipers. REAL red PORSCHE brakes.
maybe his car wasnt broken in.
I KNOW WHAT A BOXSTER S LOOKS LIKE
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 08:07 PM
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Mabye he just didn'y know how to drive, or what the both of you were doing.

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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 10:47 PM
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The simple truth is that if a Boxster S gets 1 - 1 1/2 cars lengths in front of you from a dead stop you are not going to catch up by the end of 2nd gear, in fact you will likely find yourself a bit further behind. To catch up that quickly he must not have known you were racing or as you say maybe his car wasn't broken in so he wasn't taking it about a certain RPM or speed. Or maybe he figured he's jumped you so bad from the light, what was the point of continuing?

Look for a RUF 3400 S, those are even faster than the Boxster S...
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Old Aug 18, 2001 | 11:05 PM
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Well, have you (S2KEN) ever looked at the road and track figures:

s2000
0-60 5.5
1/4 14.1@99.6MPH

Boxster S
0-60 5.6
1/4 14.0@100.5MPH

and my cars not stock. i do have a few tricks in it that added about 20+ Dynoed HP
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 07:25 AM
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Please don't quote magazine figures to me, they are pretty worthless. We all know that several factors go into any result, driver skill, the tuning on each particular car, weather conditions, etc. etc. so your results will never match a R&T or C&D result exactly, they are simply guideposts.

Where previously did you say you added 20 hp? Have you dyno'd your car before and after to prove the 20hp or are you accepting the statements of intake, exhaust and chip vendors who want you to believe you just paid $ for hp?

If I spotted a S2000 1-1/2 car lengths in a Boxster S, the Boxster S wouldn't catch up by the end of 2nd gear, likewise in reverse.

So your explanation seems to be that you added 20 more hp. Ok, if you truly have 20 more hp, that would give you an advantage over a stock Boxster S, but what is your point exactly? Does that mean you could catch him by the end of 2nd gear with 20 more HP? Possibly. But to state that you did so and then wonder "Isn't the Boxster S fast?" is meaningless.

I could put twin turbos on a Boxster S and leave a S2000 by many car lengths, but I wouldn't post "I thought S2000's were fast, what gives?" because I would expect to beat a car that I have more HP than if all other things were equal. The same way that I expect to dust off a Toyota MR2 Spyder, etc.

If you are uncertain how fast a Boxster S is, come to KC for the Invinca-shield install on Sept 8-9th and I'll be happy to demonstrate.


BTW, I've also seen 5.4 0-60 and 13.9 for the Boxster S, but again, numbers are just that, numbers.

Oh, and we all know that dealer plates sap 10hp... You need a Boxster S spoiler emblem to get that extra 20hp!!!
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Old Aug 19, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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....So i took a regular start and he got like 1-1.5 car jump at the light. ....
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The 'published' numbers mean very little when you're talking about a 'regular start'. If you want to look that up in magazines then look up the 5-60mph (which according to 'CAR and Driver' is 6.8secs). I don't have the 5-60mph numbers for BoxsterS, but it will be around 6.0 sec (or very low 6).

Also, when you do a 'regular start' then a BoxsterS has more than 50% power (at revs bellow 5k) so even if your S2000 has 20hp more than regular then you're still good 45% power behind a BoxsterS. There's actually no 'fix' or 'bolt-on' (at the moment) that will make the S2000 competitive with BoxsterS at low revs (ie. bellow 5k) ... not even the Comptech supercharger. BoxsterS totally blows away S2000 in a low revs rolling start comparision.

Also, even a car like Integra TypeR that get's 1 and 1/2 cars on you from the start is not cathable by 51mph (7k in 2nd). If you race something like a WRX or 200SX (if you have those there) of the line and they get 1 and 1/2 car lenghts on you then you will need to run up to end of 3rd to be more or less even with them, let alone pass them. BoxsterS is in a different league to these cars so the only way this could have happened is if the BoxsterS was not racing/trying.

Come to think of it, you'll have a hard time staying with the 2.7L Boxster with a 'regular launch' - I doubt that you'd you'll cath it before the end of 2nd gear (66mph).
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