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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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What we have here is a Nissan fanboi and a Vulva (or Volvo) defender. Sorry, just having a little laugh.
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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WTF?? Someone just reposted MY video..lol...funny how shyt travels.

I bet the story has been changed 50 times by now...!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishey' date='Feb 16 2005, 08:41 PM
the 17psi to redline stage 0 SRT-4? Give me a break...
uh yeah it is a 17psi to redline srt4. why is that so shockingly hard to believe?

in fact, the two are friends. ask blessed, it was his video. lol
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishey' date='Feb 16 2005, 06:41 PM
the 17psi to redline stage 0 SRT-4? Give me a break...
Yeah for real..??? I've been in his car when he's sitting at 17 pounds...

And about what you said with the srt only able to boost 15 something psi on a stage 0...well that's not totally true, the srt's computer dosen't correct that right away...you can still get a few runs in, infact the SRT driver was aware of that and made sure I was aware, so after every 3 runs he had to get out and disconnect his battery to reset his computer so he was able to boost. After 4 or 5 runs his car was noticeabley slower.

SO U GIVE ME A BREAK!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blessed' date='Feb 16 2005, 08:13 PM
Yeah for real..??? I've been in his car when he's sitting at 17 pounds...

And about what you said with the srt only able to boost 15 something psi on a stage 0...well that's not totally true, the srt's computer dosen't correct that right away...you can still get a few runs in, infact the SRT driver was aware of that and made sure I was aware, so after every 3 runs he had to get out and disconnect his battery to reset his computer so he was able to boost. After 4 or 5 runs his car was noticeabley slower.

SO U GIVE ME A BREAK!
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k' date='Feb 16 2005, 08:03 PM
uh yeah it is a 17psi to redline srt4. why is that so shockingly hard to believe?

in fact, the two are friends. ask blessed, it was his video. lol
On stage 1 alone you can only boost 16.5psi to redline safely and 17psi is the absolute limit of stage 1 before detonation. I have heard that at 17psi many people get detonation on STAGE 1. Stage 0 (like the car you mentioned) at redline is even lower max of 15psi at redline (for both 03 and 04 due to ECU map) . This includes the ECU hack because even though the ecu isn't in overboost mode (retarding the engine) there is just not anuff fuel for proper A/F mixture. So you could run 17psi to redline on stage 0 but it will blow your engine because of the detonation would be catastrophic.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishey' date='Feb 16 2005, 09:53 PM
On stage 1 alone you can only boost 16.5psi to redline safely and 17psi is the absolute limit of stage 1 before detonation. I have heard that at 17psi many people get detonation on STAGE 1. Stage 0 (like the car you mentioned) at redline is even lower max of 15psi at redline (for both 03 and 04 due to ECU map) . This includes the ECU hack because even though the ecu isn't in overboost mode (retarding the engine) there is just not anuff fuel for proper A/F mixture. So you could run 17psi to redline on stage 0 but it will blow your engine because of the detonation would be catastrophic.

I'm not trying to start crap, but do you have an SRT or have you tinkered with one? There's plenty of people running 18 psi on S0 and S1, not saying its good, but before detonation takes place the ecu will just go into limp mode usually, but a lot of people are doing this with decent success and I havent really heard of anyone blowing up doing so. once you get past 18psi on the stock turbo, however, many argue that you begin to lose efficiency. this guy doesnt have emanage or anything so the scenario about having to reset the ecu after a few pulls sounds accurate, not that I condone that sort of behavior because it doesn't sound good for the car, but at the same time, it can be done safely in many ways.

*edit* not sure if I misunderstood what you said, but it sounds like for the most part we are agreeing, but I'm just letting you know that what hes saying isn't an impossible phenomenon...thats pretty much it.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishey' date='Feb 16 2005, 09:53 PM
So you could run 17psi to redline on stage 0 but it will blow your engine because of the detonation would be catastrophic.


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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by slowsrt4' date='Feb 17 2005, 08:40 AM
I'm not trying to start crap, but do you have an SRT or have you tinkered with one? There's plenty of people running 18 psi on S0 and S1, not saying its good, but before detonation takes place the ecu will just go into limp mode usually, but a lot of people are doing this with decent success and I havent really heard of anyone blowing up doing so. once you get past 18psi on the stock turbo, however, many argue that you begin to lose efficiency. this guy doesnt have emanage or anything so the scenario about having to reset the ecu after a few pulls sounds accurate, not that I condone that sort of behavior because it doesn't sound good for the car, but at the same time, it can be done safely in many ways.

*edit* not sure if I misunderstood what you said, but it sounds like for the most part we are agreeing, but I'm just letting you know that what hes saying isn't an impossible phenomenon...thats pretty much it.
Yes, I have worked on them allot and you can run 18psi (Roommates runs 19psi falling to 16.5psi) However its not the problem of running 18psi (or even 19psi) but running that higher psi to redline that will cause damage to the engine if limp mode does not ingauge. The amount of fuel needed in the upper RPM range is allot larger to maintain the proper A/F ratio on that amount of boost and Stage 1 or Stage 0 just cannot provide enough fuel. I was never questioning that you could run 18psi but I only question running that amount of boost to redline like has been mentioned in previous threads and yes the car will go into limp mode normally but not if the ECU hack was done to it just before the car is run. Since the ECU is just confused at first and that is why it allows you to stay out of overboost protection but also stops limp mode (same thing but caused by detonation instead of high PSI readings) for the first few runs from doing there job.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Roomates SRT-4 ModList and pictures of it with my 993c2 when it was stock.

B&B TurboBack, Forge BOV, K&N CAI, Stage 1 , TurboXS STD Boost Controller, Agp Billet WGA, Silverstar headlights, Agp Motor Solid Motor mounts, S-tech springs (not installed), Hotchkiss swaybars (not installed)

Here is the picture of it when it was stock.
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