sorry, i didnt mean to sound like a douche, and if i did, i apologize. i was just shocked at your assumption of a stock s2000 putting down its base output. its impossible for a stock car to put down 237, when it only has 237bhp.

 

no no no, you didnt make it sound that way at all, just appreciating that you havnt.. ive read a few threads on here in the encounters section and there are some douche replies out there when it comes to power weight and quarter mile times an what not (big headed if anything)

ill state this now, i dont know sh** about that stuff and its not my type of thing, but its good to know what i got

im just accepting the info

 

Sounds like The Bachelor doing his rounds. He was probably tuning via his laptop and obviously not paying attention to anyone or anything on the road. When The Bacheloris like this, best to steer clear.

 

237 v 240 only because of new SAE numbers, NOT due to performance.

AP2s put down more WHP than AP1s. So no, not equally 200 WHP.

And, AP2s are not quicker off the line. AP1s are.

I suggest you do some more reading.

 

[QUOTE=Bboy AJ,May 12 2007, 07:28 PM] 237 v 240 only because of new SAE numbers, NOT due to performance.

AP2s put down more WHP than AP1s.

 

You are probably one of the most ego hurt posters on this forum. Here you go picking out ONE of my corrections to several of your ignorant, false comments and have the nerve to call me a smart ass? I'm not the one thinking Honda dropped 3 HP in the car.

By the way, AP1s have a quicker 0-60 time, which is "off the line" due to their extra 1k. So I suggest you relax your ego online before you make yourself look even worse than you already do.

 

all im pointing out is that youre wrong. its obvious AP2's are quicker off the line and i gave you 2 videos of evidence. i see you giving nothing to back your statements, so ill stand on my opinion that an AP2 is quicker bc i fell it is obvious from what i showed you. Also, all im doing is going by what the book says. AP1's: 240hp AP2's: 237hp, whatever you want to call that, i call that being 3 hp less...for whatever reason, it is 3hp less. and you were also the first to make a direct comment at me

 

I didnt mean to start an argument here. All I was suggesting by my "playing with numbers" statement is that a different measurment or calculation system has to have been used. Similar to the way you cant really compare dyno numbers from 2 different dynos. They are all different. I disagree however with using manufacturer provided info as to real power ratings. IMO its like using the highest number on the speedometer as a measue of how fast the car can go (for all those with analog gauges). All I know is that my roommate (AP1 I/E) and me (AP2 stock) are dead even most of the time. Both cars are clearly quick and anything else is just splitting hairs.

 

well said

 

Sounds like a douchebag Vette driver to me. I hope S2k owners don't go around harassing stock Civics.


AP1 v. AP2 = Tie

People that tell you otherwise are either attempting to boost their egos or are too impressed by the whopping 10lb in the midrange that nobody races in. When one S2k gets another off the line by more than just a hair(regardless of engine) it is due to one person launching better than the other. It is also possible that the CDV kills the launch for AP2's if you are looking at the different 0-60 times. I know the CDV seriously annoyed me in the AP2 I drove.

FWIW, my stock AP1 dyno'd at 209whp(or about 14whp higher than other S2k's on the same dyno(check link in sig). I only mention this to illustrate that not all S2k's are created equal, and some will come out with more or less power than average regardless of whether it has an F20 or F22. Showing 1 or 2 instances of an S2k being slightly faster than another is worthless since there are too many variables in a race that is already too close to call by the numbers.