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Old 01-01-2004, 12:53 PM
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Maybe you didn't see that it had a hard time gaining traction, and it let off the gas a few times.

In fact, that T66 Civic could be pushing max boost, or low boost. Cars don't race each other by themselves. It's the driver. There are so many variables in a street race.

Maybe an ideal-tuned, and well driven T66 Civic would smoke everything that comes in its path. But this one doesn't.
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Old 01-01-2004, 01:31 PM
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Yes, I noticed that it did have some traction problems but the core of the issue that I'm concerned about isn't traction, it's when the EK9's tires hooked up, it should've literally wasted the SRT-4. That's why I'm calling about it being stock. Since I can't "see" what's under the hood of the Civic in the video, I could also call on it being a T66 also. Either way, either the story isn't being told accurately or someone's trying pass out a bunch of crap.

I have enough experience driving, working and tuning EK9's to have a good grasp of what they can do. 2 of my friend's own turbo EK9's, one of them has a H22A swap with a T3/T4 and would literally smoke '04 SRT-4's (and Mopar Stage 1 modded '03s) and put a good bus length before hitting 100mph from a 10mph roll. The other has a T66 and while lag is a serious issue on this car, it's no contest in a race... the H22A would get swallowed up like a Japanese tourist facing a 10 foot shorebreak wave at Waimea Beach Park.
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Originally posted by Hyper-X
the H22A would get swallowed up like a Japanese tourist facing a 10 foot shorebreak wave at Waimea Beach Park.
That was good.
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There is no way that is a stock car. A C5 Vette should walk that thing and from what I have witnessed, the EvO would have pulled it as well. That car is definately not running stock boost levels. 230 HP 250 FT Pounds of Torque does not move like that...Trust Me...

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Old 01-01-2004, 02:12 PM
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Who said they have 230hp? New ones have a stage 1 upgrade from factory. More like 240@wheels.
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Originally posted by S4KiD
There is no way that is a stock car. A C5 Vette should walk that thing and from what I have witnessed, the EvO would have pulled it as well. That car is definately not running stock boost levels. 230 HP 250 FT Pounds of Torque does not move like that...Trust Me...

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I would have to agree. While the 230HP/250TQ are just numbers which mean absolutely nothing (since they are claimed figures provided by the manufacturer), real-world testing would prove that Dodge is up to that old under-rating game.

Honda could also state that the S2000 makes only 160HP and make it look like some miracle car compared to other cars that produce the same HP figures. I was suspicious when a Dodge 2.5L turbo would produce 70HP less than a comparable displacement STI, also 2.5L producing 300HP. That meant the SRT-4 was either an incredibly inferior car, or the OEM was bullshitting about their claims.
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Ok 350 Where ya hiding the video of the neon spanking a 350z. Joking

Anyway I am sure some of those videos have stock Noens but I think some are modded. Its really hard to tell when the neon lets off the gas or when the other car lets off the gas. Anyway very entertaining. Thanks for the posts
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Am I the only one who can't get to the vids? I keep getting the paypal donation page. Or am I the only one too broke to give a donation?? Please help, I would like to see the videos.
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Oops, I just noticed the "save as"
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I just wasted my time watching every video of this stock anomaly... the "Neo" of the Neons... the "one" that will bring balance to all and peace to Zion...


...and I too have to call a huge BS on all of these Neons being stock!!
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