**Help, another TICKET** Please Advise!!
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S2000-ers,
Here we go again. 58 on a 40 Zone. The worst thing, I'd just attended traffic school 2 months ago. Here's the story:
1. Does anyone know about the CA DMV rule about traffic school. I've heard that you can attend traffic school as many times as you want as long as you are ticketed in a different COUNTY. Is this true?
2. My last ticket was in San Bernadino(Traffic school 2 months ago), and my latest one is in Los Angeles. Los Angeles courthouse told me that I am eligible for Traffic school. But just attended school 2 months ago!
What do I do? Should I pay for traffic school and attend it and find out later that my traffic school is null, because I'd taken it within the 18 months, or confront the judge? I'm just afraid of attending and wasting my time.
Lawers and Speeders HELP!!
Back-cracker "On the verge of loosing my licence"
Here we go again. 58 on a 40 Zone. The worst thing, I'd just attended traffic school 2 months ago. Here's the story:
1. Does anyone know about the CA DMV rule about traffic school. I've heard that you can attend traffic school as many times as you want as long as you are ticketed in a different COUNTY. Is this true?
2. My last ticket was in San Bernadino(Traffic school 2 months ago), and my latest one is in Los Angeles. Los Angeles courthouse told me that I am eligible for Traffic school. But just attended school 2 months ago!
What do I do? Should I pay for traffic school and attend it and find out later that my traffic school is null, because I'd taken it within the 18 months, or confront the judge? I'm just afraid of attending and wasting my time.
Lawers and Speeders HELP!!
Back-cracker "On the verge of loosing my licence"
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This is what I found on ticketassassin.com, Still need help.
Traffic School Frequency: Once every 18 months?
The law allows you to attend traffic school once every 18 months for a traffic infraction. Upon completion of traffic school, your citation is recorded as a dismissal on your confidential driving record. Your confidential record can only be viewed by the courts, law enforcement, and the DMV. Your insurance company does not get to see your confidential record. If you attend traffic school no more than once every 18 months, no note that the citation ever occurred is made on your public driving record.
If you receive another infraction within 18 months from your last traffic school attendance, you will not be automatically eligible to attend. However, if the court is not aware of this previous attendance, it will usually assign you to traffic school again. Even if the court knows that you've attended traffic school within 18 months, the judges have wide discretion in this and will often send you to traffic school again within 18 months. Why? Each time you attend traffic school, the court collects an additional $24 to $30 fee in addition to your bail. The court gets to keep this fee and this fee can only be legally collected if you are assigned to traffic school.
If the court denies you the favor of a second traffic school, you can respond by exercising your legal right to contest your citation; this will cost the court money. When you contest, the court has to pay the citing officer overtime ($200-300) and also has to pay the judge, bailiff and court clerks to run your trial. This adds up to several hundred dollars per case. In most cases, the court would rather play nice, let you attend traffic school again, and make $100-300 from your fine plus $24 for traffic school. This is why most courts have no problem reassigning repeat offenders to traffic school. I know scores of students who have attended traffic school three to four times in a single year. One former traffic school student of mine attended class 11 times in two years. Due to her attendance, not a single conviction had been recorded on her DMV record. Yes, she had a "clean" record.
If the court allows you to attend traffic school more than once in 18 months, the DMV will record this second "dismissal" on both your confidential and public driving records. Though your insurance company will know you were cited and attended traffic school, they can not legally raise your rates. Insurance rates can only be increased if a guilty conviction or at-fault accident is recorded on your public record. A dismissal, whether recorded publicly or confidentially, can never be used to increase your rates.
Traffic School Frequency: Once every 18 months?
The law allows you to attend traffic school once every 18 months for a traffic infraction. Upon completion of traffic school, your citation is recorded as a dismissal on your confidential driving record. Your confidential record can only be viewed by the courts, law enforcement, and the DMV. Your insurance company does not get to see your confidential record. If you attend traffic school no more than once every 18 months, no note that the citation ever occurred is made on your public driving record.
If you receive another infraction within 18 months from your last traffic school attendance, you will not be automatically eligible to attend. However, if the court is not aware of this previous attendance, it will usually assign you to traffic school again. Even if the court knows that you've attended traffic school within 18 months, the judges have wide discretion in this and will often send you to traffic school again within 18 months. Why? Each time you attend traffic school, the court collects an additional $24 to $30 fee in addition to your bail. The court gets to keep this fee and this fee can only be legally collected if you are assigned to traffic school.
If the court denies you the favor of a second traffic school, you can respond by exercising your legal right to contest your citation; this will cost the court money. When you contest, the court has to pay the citing officer overtime ($200-300) and also has to pay the judge, bailiff and court clerks to run your trial. This adds up to several hundred dollars per case. In most cases, the court would rather play nice, let you attend traffic school again, and make $100-300 from your fine plus $24 for traffic school. This is why most courts have no problem reassigning repeat offenders to traffic school. I know scores of students who have attended traffic school three to four times in a single year. One former traffic school student of mine attended class 11 times in two years. Due to her attendance, not a single conviction had been recorded on her DMV record. Yes, she had a "clean" record.
If the court allows you to attend traffic school more than once in 18 months, the DMV will record this second "dismissal" on both your confidential and public driving records. Though your insurance company will know you were cited and attended traffic school, they can not legally raise your rates. Insurance rates can only be increased if a guilty conviction or at-fault accident is recorded on your public record. A dismissal, whether recorded publicly or confidentially, can never be used to increase your rates.
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backcracker-
i asked a judge who he would hire as an attorney if he got a ticket... and then i hired that guy. no more ticket!
(i am sure that this doesnt always work, and it is expensive- but might be worth a try. especially since traffic school is probably not an option for you).
i asked a judge who he would hire as an attorney if he got a ticket... and then i hired that guy. no more ticket!
(i am sure that this doesnt always work, and it is expensive- but might be worth a try. especially since traffic school is probably not an option for you).
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I thought you bought a detector? What happened? I know you don't pay attention based on driving with you in April 
but how many tickets do you have?
Does Team Arizona need to "loan" you a detector for a few more years?
but how many tickets do you have?Does Team Arizona need to "loan" you a detector for a few more years?
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I hear only a small portion of people contest their tickets, and even so, most cops don't even show up to court at the time. It's a win/win situation for you if you contest in court, almost. No cop = uncontested win for you. Even if the cop does show up and convicts you, what's the worse? You pay your fine, and you ask if you can take defensive driving to wipe out the ticket. (www.defensivedriving.com)
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hehe...i got caught doing 60 in a 40 just a couple weeks ago. The courtesy notice came today, and I was pretty happy to only see a bill of $120! I guess I was expecting a $250+ ticket! good thing I can take traffic school
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From: S2ki.com
Speed limits suck! No one ever abides by them. I feel for you man. If the court says you can take traffic school then take it. Obviously they don't show any records of you attending a previous one. From my experience the whole system is a bit messed up. I once got two tickets in a span of 4 weeks. Took traffic school for one and the other never went on my record!