has any 2006 owner flashed their vehicle yet and for those who have whether its an S2K or another Honda/Acura how reliable is it? the only thing that i don't like with the AP2 is the gearing. its a little too short for me, its very quick bursts and before you know you've topped out 4 gears. 5600-8500rpms seems closer to the AP1 6000-9100rpms.

Hondata ReFlash

 

C'mon man... there's a 2 page post about it on this same page. All you had to do was scroll down and you would have seen it.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=394177

There's also a much more in depth post about it a few pages back if you want more information.

 

I guess there will always be somebody out there who hates whatever "improvements" are made. Honda changed the AP2 tranny in response to the fact that a lot of AP1 owners were going to numerically higher final drive gears, but didn't want to sacrifice highway cruising rpm. So they came out with what you have in the AP2 tranny. I would love to have an AP2 tranny in my AP1 and if you were close to me, I'd trade you in a heartbeat. There are enough AP1 owners that I'm sure if you really wanted to, you could find someone close to you to make the swap and afterwards, the other guy would be chuckling the whole time wondering "What the heck was the matter with you?" and run like Hell before you changed your mind.

 

[QUOTE=xviper,Jun 9 2006, 06:41 AM]I guess there will always be somebody out there who hates whatever "improvements" are made.

 

Exactly. I want an F20, but I've just had too many bad experiences with used cars. I wanted something new. Unfortunately, you can't get it. If only the different engines/trannys were options...

 

the only thing that irks me with the whole process is sending my ecu to hondata and not being able to drive the car for 4 to 5 days. one thing i never found out was if i could drive to torrance ca and bring my car up there myself.

 

Hmmm, the "gear calculator" indicates that on your car, 3rd is good for 78mph and 4th is good for 99.5.
A "re-flash" will not change your gearing or speed in any gear unless it alters the redline. To get the speeds you want in 3rd and 4th, you would have to raise the redline to about 9000rpm. Honda dropped the redline in the 2.2 for a reason - piston speeds were getting just a bit on the dangerous side. I'm not even sure if a re-flash will alter the redline, but if it does, do you really want to take out the safeguard that Honda wanted in place?
You seem to have the wrong idea of what the Hondata reflash does. It is supposed to add a bit power and torque (and not much, either). More torque and power will give you more acceleration. Your "fun" will be even shorter. But that's what it's all about - to get up to speed quicker.
You say your gearing shortens the "fun". Honda did what they did to shorten the time it took to get to speed. It's called acceleration. That's what was lacking and why people went to different final drive gears. The "longer" your "fun" lasts, the slower you are accelerating. I'm somewhat confused that you want to go "slower".

 

[QUOTE=xviper,Jun 9 2006, 11:26 AM]Hmmm, the "gear calculator" indicates that on your car, 3rd is good for 78mph and 4th is good for 99.5.
A "re-flash" will not change your gearing or speed in any gear unless it alters the redline.

 

[QUOTE=xviper,Jun 9 2006, 11:26 AM]Hmmm, the "gear calculator" indicates that on your car, 3rd is good for 78mph and 4th is good for 99.5.
A "re-flash" will not change your gearing or speed in any gear unless it alters the redline.

 

1. The rev limiter was increased to 8500.

2. Not a signficant increase in power? Peak power, no, mid-range hell yes. Look at this dyno graph:

http://www.hondata.com/images/s2k_06_stock-vs-toda.gif

20ft-lbs more at 5800 with the reflash. I'd say that is significant.