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Old May 14, 2016 | 11:49 PM
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OP: try a set of newer tires first. If you don't want to go to a 200tw tire check on the Pilot Super Sport. If you do decide to go a set further and start upgrading the suspension I'd personally recommend Ohlins DFV

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OP...if returning the S04's and getting a set of Pilot SS's is an option, I would definitely do it. The pilots are better in every respect. There are almost no compromises with the MPSS. They don't grip like a 71R or other EP tires...but...that doesn't matter if you're not tracking the car. By the time you reach the end of grip on a good max performance tire, you'll be in huge trouble anyway.

MPSS's are quiet, work great in rain, last a long time, have close ultimate dry traction to something like a Direzza Z2, and they ride well.
MPSS all the way I've put close to 20k miles on my car in a year. Having to replace tires twice a year is unacceptable. Would rather save the money for a second set of wheels/tires for track days, auto-x, and Sunday drives. Plus, it's an excuse to buy more wheels.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
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OP...if returning the S04's and getting a set of Pilot SS's is an option, I would definitely do it. The pilots are better in every respect. There are almost no compromises with the MPSS. They don't grip like a 71R or other EP tires...but...that doesn't matter if you're not tracking the car. By the time you reach the end of grip on a good max performance tire, you'll be in huge trouble anyway.

MPSS's are quiet, work great in rain, last a long time, have close ultimate dry traction to something like a Direzza Z2, and they ride well.
Yeah OP. Try and return your 280 tires and go for an even worse 300. This is a brilliant suggestion.

Make sure you continue to listen to amazing advice like this in order to keep your S2000 nice and quiet and riding like a Cadillac.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by honda606
Originally Posted by B serious' timestamp='1463291351' post='23966988
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OP...if returning the S04's and getting a set of Pilot SS's is an option, I would definitely do it. The pilots are better in every respect. There are almost no compromises with the MPSS. They don't grip like a 71R or other EP tires...but...that doesn't matter if you're not tracking the car. By the time you reach the end of grip on a good max performance tire, you'll be in huge trouble anyway.

MPSS's are quiet, work great in rain, last a long time, have close ultimate dry traction to something like a Direzza Z2, and they ride well.
Yeah OP. Try and return your 280 tires and go for an even worse 300. This is a brilliant suggestion.

Make sure you continue to listen to amazing advice like this in order to keep your S2000 nice and quiet and riding like a Cadillac.
Tread wear ratings are not standardized. A bridgestone 280 may or may not be the same as a michelin 300.



YOU learn something new every day.

TW ratings also don't ultimately reveal the available grip.

A 71R and a Z2 SS are both 200TW, as examples of both the above statements.

You should try reading my post again a little bit more slowly, and when you're not as filled with rage.

The MPSS has quite a bit wider of a performance envelope than the stock RE050's or even S02's had.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by honda606
Originally Posted by B serious' timestamp='1463291351' post='23966988
^LOL.

OP...if returning the S04's and getting a set of Pilot SS's is an option, I would definitely do it. The pilots are better in every respect. There are almost no compromises with the MPSS. They don't grip like a 71R or other EP tires...but...that doesn't matter if you're not tracking the car. By the time you reach the end of grip on a good max performance tire, you'll be in huge trouble anyway.

MPSS's are quiet, work great in rain, last a long time, have close ultimate dry traction to something like a Direzza Z2, and they ride well.
Yeah OP. Try and return your 280 tires and go for an even worse 300. This is a brilliant suggestion.

Make sure you continue to listen to amazing advice like this in order to keep your S2000 nice and quiet and riding like a Cadillac.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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What an offensive, missinformed post.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
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OP...if returning the S04's and getting a set of Pilot SS's is an option, I would definitely do it. The pilots are better in every respect. There are almost no compromises with the MPSS. They don't grip like a 71R or other EP tires...but...that doesn't matter if you're not tracking the car. By the time you reach the end of grip on a good max performance tire, you'll be in huge trouble anyway.

MPSS's are quiet, work great in rain, last a long time, have close ultimate dry traction to something like a Direzza Z2, and they ride well.
I put Michelin PSS onto my car. So far so good. Handling seems a bit more forgiving, close to edge of adhesion --- at least compared to Bridgestone tire that came with car. Good feedback to driver, IMHO.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Just got back from another drive. It definatly feels like the tires are the weak link. The car really does handle great. I bet with the new tires and an alignment it will really perform.
I'm really tempted to just send the Bridgestones back and get the Pilots. If I don't I'll probably wonder what I'm missing.
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Old May 15, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Sounds like you drive your car hard. I would also go with the Re71r.
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Old May 16, 2016 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by WVCR-V
Just got back from another drive. It definatly feels like the tires are the weak link. The car really does handle great. I bet with the new tires and an alignment it will really perform.
I'm really tempted to just send the Bridgestones back and get the Pilots. If I don't I'll probably wonder what I'm missing.
I wouldnt worry. They will perform great.

Frankly, I cant believe all this talk of extreme performance tires. Yes, if its a track car, that you sometimes drive on the street, or course go with track tires. If its a fun car you drive on the street, then max performance will do just fine.

I am not disparaging anyone else choice. If you feel you need extreme performance tires to drive your car on a curvy road, by all means. Go for it. But to tell someone else that the car wont handle well on the street without literally going to extremes, that is just...wrong.

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Old May 16, 2016 | 06:08 AM
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Thanks Car Analogy. I am teetering back and forth as whether to return the Potenzas and get the Pilots. This car already out handles anything I've ever owned with the all seasons. I did look at the RE71's and though dry traction looks great, I still feel the MAx performance category is what I need. They have better wet ratings and like I've said my state is like a rainforest. Plus my mom or girlfriend will be riding with me some and ride comfort is a consideration...lol. I think the Pilot or the Potenza fits the bill. It just seems the Pilot does everything a little better but the Potenza is still a top performer in that group so I don't no why all the negative comments about it.
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