300 hp FI or 300 hp N/A?
I was on another forum and there was a disscussion about which would be faster. I wanted to see what you guys thought. They weren't using the S as the example, but it got me thinking.
A N/A S2000, a turbo, a S/C, and a nitrous one. All tuned optimally to 300whp. In theory, which one would be faster from a stop or from a roll?
I would think the nitrous would be the fastest, but kind of skeptical about which would come in next. I would think a N/A would get a low end advantage since to reach that hp number it would obviously have more displacment, but would the FI catch up at higher speeds?
Also would the results be the same in a different car, say 8 cylinder?
A N/A S2000, a turbo, a S/C, and a nitrous one. All tuned optimally to 300whp. In theory, which one would be faster from a stop or from a roll?
I would think the nitrous would be the fastest, but kind of skeptical about which would come in next. I would think a N/A would get a low end advantage since to reach that hp number it would obviously have more displacment, but would the FI catch up at higher speeds?
Also would the results be the same in a different car, say 8 cylinder?
ya...realistically...same car, same weight, I would say they would all equal out for the most part. none too much faster then the other
N/A would have the off the line advantage (S's case) because it would have to produce a good amount of torque starting down low to create that kind of hp up top.
I'd say N/A would have all the advantages, just cause it is instant torque when you put your foot down...its just which will get the jump maybe nitrous next cause they have to go WOT then spray, then turbo cause it spools and holds boost making more torque lower than the SC which doesn't reach full boost till top RPM.
N/A, Nx, T, SC
Theoretically...say the N/A gets a 12.9, the Nx might get a 13.0 and the T a 13.1 and the SC a 13.2, however all of them within 1-2 mph of the others
N/A would have the off the line advantage (S's case) because it would have to produce a good amount of torque starting down low to create that kind of hp up top.
I'd say N/A would have all the advantages, just cause it is instant torque when you put your foot down...its just which will get the jump maybe nitrous next cause they have to go WOT then spray, then turbo cause it spools and holds boost making more torque lower than the SC which doesn't reach full boost till top RPM.
N/A, Nx, T, SC
Theoretically...say the N/A gets a 12.9, the Nx might get a 13.0 and the T a 13.1 and the SC a 13.2, however all of them within 1-2 mph of the others
N/A 100%, but you need to drop some major cash into the S2000's motor to make it 300 rwhp N/A... A 100 shot nitrous doesn't sound that smart w/stock internals either... so the CHEAPEST & SAFEST would be turbo/supercharger
P.S. The difference between the 3 isn't very significant in 1/4 mile and nitrous should get the highest top speed
P.S. The difference between the 3 isn't very significant in 1/4 mile and nitrous should get the highest top speed
Originally Posted by SLO-S2000,Feb 26 2005, 04:29 PM
ya...realistically...same car, same weight, I would say they would all equal out for the most part. none too much faster then the other
N/A would have the off the line advantage (S's case) because it would have to produce a good amount of torque starting down low to create that kind of hp up top.
I'd say N/A would have all the advantages, just cause it is instant torque when you put your foot down...its just which will get the jump maybe nitrous next cause they have to go WOT then spray, then turbo cause it spools and holds boost making more torque lower than the SC which doesn't reach full boost till top RPM.
N/A, Nx, T, SC
Theoretically...say the N/A gets a 12.9, the Nx might get a 13.0 and the T a 13.1 and the SC a 13.2, however all of them within 1-2 mph of the others
N/A would have the off the line advantage (S's case) because it would have to produce a good amount of torque starting down low to create that kind of hp up top.
I'd say N/A would have all the advantages, just cause it is instant torque when you put your foot down...its just which will get the jump maybe nitrous next cause they have to go WOT then spray, then turbo cause it spools and holds boost making more torque lower than the SC which doesn't reach full boost till top RPM.
N/A, Nx, T, SC
Theoretically...say the N/A gets a 12.9, the Nx might get a 13.0 and the T a 13.1 and the SC a 13.2, however all of them within 1-2 mph of the others
I'd say it would depend on how much weight each one added.
Turbo might be at a slight disadvantage off the line because it has to spool up. On the other hand, it might be one of the lighter ways to get to 300 hp.
Might also depend on altitude ... a normally aspirated engine getting 300 hp at sea level won't get that much in Denver. A supercharger could be set up to get the extra power at any altitude.
Turbo might be at a slight disadvantage off the line because it has to spool up. On the other hand, it might be one of the lighter ways to get to 300 hp.
Might also depend on altitude ... a normally aspirated engine getting 300 hp at sea level won't get that much in Denver. A supercharger could be set up to get the extra power at any altitude.
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Originally Posted by revhi,Feb 26 2005, 04:16 PM
I was on another forum and there was a disscussion about which would be faster. I wanted to see what you guys thought. They weren't using the S as the example, but it got me thinking.
A N/A S2000, a turbo, a S/C, and a nitrous one. All tuned optimally to 300whp. In theory, which one would be faster from a stop or from a roll?
I would think the nitrous would be the fastest, but kind of skeptical about which would come in next. I would think a N/A would get a low end advantage since to reach that hp number it would obviously have more displacment, but would the FI catch up at higher speeds?
Also would the results be the same in a different car, say 8 cylinder?
A N/A S2000, a turbo, a S/C, and a nitrous one. All tuned optimally to 300whp. In theory, which one would be faster from a stop or from a roll?
I would think the nitrous would be the fastest, but kind of skeptical about which would come in next. I would think a N/A would get a low end advantage since to reach that hp number it would obviously have more displacment, but would the FI catch up at higher speeds?
Also would the results be the same in a different car, say 8 cylinder?
Originally Posted by YellowS2kPwr,Feb 26 2005, 07:33 PM
N/A 100%, but you need to drop some major cash into the S2000's motor to make it 300 rwhp N/A... A 100 shot nitrous doesn't sound that smart w/stock internals either... so the CHEAPEST & SAFEST would be turbo/supercharger
P.S. The difference between the 3 isn't very significant in 1/4 mile and nitrous should get the highest top speed
P.S. The difference between the 3 isn't very significant in 1/4 mile and nitrous should get the highest top speed
well anyways my look on it...
nitours would be first... simply cause there will be an instant power gain once the nitrous is turned on.....
then it would be the turbo... yes the turbo will be slow fromt he start but it will end up catching up... the turbo dyno plot should have more white area under the line (whats under the line is what matters not where you end up)
then it would be na.... with the instant power, it will shoot out front and lead but the others will catch up....
the supercharger would come in last (for the s2000) anyways.. because it runs like stock and then it builds boost and doesn't reach max power till the end....
now if the S had a roots blower that would be differnt cause thats' instant like an NA setup...
after all this said.. it all varries on how these cars are tuned.... whiche ever one has more white space under the line would win...




