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I was trying to do research on this, only thing I've seen is that class on the Streets of Willow, but it's about 500 (to use their celicas).
couldn't find any autox courses local here. Any you recommend? 20 does sound much cheaper =)
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You learn how to countersteer when the rear kicks out on you. If anything you will EASE OFF of the throttle rather than "mash the brakes" or completely lift off of the throttle. Lifting the throttle will take the weight off of the rear tires causing the car to continue to spin. Mashing the brakes also upsets the rear by taking weight off the rear tires. Easing off, but still keeping pressure on the throttle is key to managing these situations and keeps the car balanced.
They only hapen "so fast" to the inexperienced drivers. The whole "oh the snap-oversteer is so common on the S2000"... again that's only to the inexperienced drivers.
Please do yourselves a favor and go participate at an autocross or a trackday and learn the limits of your car. The $20 autox or $180 track entry fee is MUCH cheaper than your deductible alone not even including the cost of your insurance rising from incidents like this.
couldn't find any autox courses local here. Any you recommend? 20 does sound much cheaper =)
Originally Posted by Vatko' timestamp='1314822729' post='20932245
I'm not going to rip you apart, because shit can happen to any of us... regardless of the level of experience.
With that being said, I'm glad you made it out alive, but you just fit in that bracket "18 years old, and inexperienced, type driver." You were driving over your head, and this happened. If you hear the tires screeching, that's a warning sign right there.. pretty much telling u that you better know how to drive, or you hit the ditch.
It's ok, next time be more careful man.
With that being said, I'm glad you made it out alive, but you just fit in that bracket "18 years old, and inexperienced, type driver." You were driving over your head, and this happened. If you hear the tires screeching, that's a warning sign right there.. pretty much telling u that you better know how to drive, or you hit the ditch.
It's ok, next time be more careful man.
For the more experienced drivers out there, what's the best course of action when the rears go? My instinct is to mash the brakes, but I'm sure that's wrong. Does one just let go of the gas and point the wheel in the opposite direction that the rears are sliding towards?
Please do yourselves a favor and go participate at an autocross or a trackday and learn the limits of your car. The $20 autox or $180 track entry fee is MUCH cheaper than your deductible alone not even including the cost of your insurance rising from incidents like this.
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You learn how to countersteer when the rear kicks out on you. If anything you will EASE OFF of the throttle rather than "mash the brakes" or completely lift off of the throttle. Lifting the throttle will take the weight off of the rear tires causing the car to continue to spin. Mashing the brakes also upsets the rear by taking weight off the rear tires. Easing off, but still keeping pressure on the throttle is key to managing these situations and keeps the car balanced.
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I was trying to do research on this, only thing I've seen is that class on the Streets of Willow, but it's about 500 (to use their celicas).
couldn't find any autox courses local here. Any you recommend? 20 does sound much cheaper =)
couldn't find any autox courses local here. Any you recommend? 20 does sound much cheaper =)
Originally Posted by RavynX' timestamp='1314993038' post='20939331
.... Please do yourselves a favor and go participate at an autocross or a trackday and learn the limits of your car. The $20 autox or $180 track entry fee is MUCH cheaper than your deductible alone not even including the cost of your insurance rising from incidents like this.
I would go to your local s2ki boards and ask around for autocross events. Best of luck!
Originally Posted by RavynX' timestamp='1314993038' post='20939331
You learn how to countersteer when the rear kicks out on you. If anything you will EASE OFF of the throttle rather than "mash the brakes" or completely lift off of the throttle. Lifting the throttle will take the weight off of the rear tires causing the car to continue to spin. Mashing the brakes also upsets the rear by taking weight off the rear tires. Easing off, but still keeping pressure on the throttle is key to managing these situations and keeps the car balanced.
Good to see that you were injured and able to post about it here on s2ki. Learn from this experience and don't be scared to get another one... just learn where your limits are at with the car on the track.
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General tip from a motorsports junkie: Try to listen to the car and traction available rather than assuming you have the grip you would normally have under perfect conditions. Road conditions, car conditions, weather, etc. change from day to day. I frequently hear people comment that they "didn't take a turn too fast," but spun out. But then in pictures, there was some gravel, a little dip or something else that made a turn be "too fast" in actuality.
