AP2 vs. AP1
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Originally Posted by wildcardtrd,Oct 11 2007, 03:47 AM
The redline and dash can be solved fairly easily...swap in an ECU from an MY 00 or 01 and get the JDM AP2 dash cluster that goes to 9k. Get your key affixed to the new 'puter, and done. The old ecu's ran rich, so they actually work great on the 2.2 bottom end. You'll find your powerband is similar to the AP1, with power dropping off in the 8400-8500 rpm range.
Every AP2 I've ever seen on the dyno slams into the rev limiter...it's just set too low...the car is still making really good power when it's cut.
Every AP2 I've ever seen on the dyno slams into the rev limiter...it's just set too low...the car is still making really good power when it's cut.
Can the AP2 ECU be adjusted to set the rev limiter later?
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Originally Posted by wildcardtrd,Oct 11 2007, 04:47 AM
The redline and dash can be solved fairly easily...swap in an ECU from an MY 00 or 01 and get the JDM AP2 dash cluster that goes to 9k. Get your key affixed to the new 'puter, and done. The old ecu's ran rich, so they actually work great on the 2.2 bottom end. You'll find your powerband is similar to the AP1, with power dropping off in the 8400-8500 rpm range.
Every AP2 I've ever seen on the dyno slams into the rev limiter...it's just set too low...the car is still making really good power when it's cut.
Every AP2 I've ever seen on the dyno slams into the rev limiter...it's just set too low...the car is still making really good power when it's cut.
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Originally Posted by innovation,Oct 11 2007, 01:47 PM
i dont think the 06-07 can swap ECU because of hte DBW system but i may be wrong
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Originally Posted by s2k_redhead,Oct 11 2007, 10:38 AM
Yeah, I considered that, but I've learned that keeping things stock helps a great deal on resale value - not that I'm ever planning to sell THIS one, but being on my 3rd s2k, you just never know what might happen. I'm going to live with it until I've gotten a few track days under my belt and see what I think then.
Can the AP2 ECU be adjusted to set the rev limiter later?
Can the AP2 ECU be adjusted to set the rev limiter later?
For an otherwise stock car:
Stock Reflash
* VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 5600 rpm
* Rev limit 8500 rpm
Or with a Toda header:
Header Reflash
* VTEC point decreased from 6000 rpm to 4200 rpm
* Rev limit 8500 rpm
Neither reflash adds much/any peak HP or TQ, but you fatten the midrange power, especially with the header program. They mention the Toda header because the program was developed for a car owned by a forum member (sorry, I don't remember the name) who had that header already installed, along with an exhaust, test pipe and Hondata intake manifold gasket.
There has been discussion here that most aftermarket headers should work with the reflash, but none have been specifically tested/dynoed that I have seen. I am particularly interested in the Mugen AP2 header, as it's the only one so far designed specifically for the 2.2L engine.
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From: West Hills, CA
Originally Posted by philbert,Oct 11 2007, 11:37 AM
I am particularly interested in the Mugen AP2 header, as it's the only one so far designed specifically for the 2.2L engine.
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From: Camarillo
Originally Posted by sevenplaces,Oct 11 2007, 02:54 PM
if you hate your center console so much, i'll trade you for my AP1!
I didn't say I HATED it!! 
I'm not going to be swapping out interior parts or headers ... but I think we have a For Sale forum for you guys ...
