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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Hypothetical question: If Honda all of a sudden introduces a new AP3 S2000 (or whatever name it is) with the following specs:

- VTEC/i-VTEC NA inline-6 (or V6...) 3.2L engine pumping 335hp and 270 lbs of torque at the crank with 7.5 to 8.0K redline
- 4-piston calipers (instead of the current crappy 1-piston floating ones) -- maybe made by Brembo or something
- reinforced body (say it comes with lower X-brace, and rear lower strut bar, and similar reinforcements that cusco offers)
- slightly stiffer suspension and maybe 3/4" lower
- weighs another 460lbs and marginally bigger body (still maintains 50/50 distribution, front mid-engine layout)
- slightly better quality leather seats and sound system
- everything else pretty much remain the same (nice 6-speed tranny, convertible, 17" rims, X-bone design, etc)

Assuming that it has a new design that is as "clean" the current S2000 (lets just say appearance is not an issue here), and has a price tag of 46,000 MSRP (a price that's much closer to the German breeds), will you still buy it?

BTW, this is not to start a rumor, I'm just wondering whether people will still be interested in the car if both the price and weight increase, and the redline lowers, to get the bump in power & torque and nice brakes/suspension upgrades.

EDIT: I am thinking about this as I see this "hp war" going on with other cars, with Accord pumping 250+bhp and the new M3 throwing 420bhp, Civic going into the 200 zone ... what the heck ... soon or later a Civic will just outrun a E36 M3 in a straight line (okay, exaggerating here ...)
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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Not for $45,000....
The current is good enough to keep up with current competition. But, I think, if the hp wars keep going, the car you mentioned may be a possibility in the future at a lower price.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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I haven't really got a clue where you're going with this, but I don't think you'll see that kind of horsepower from Honda until the NSX is replaced with something along those lines.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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not going to happen.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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I would get an Elise instead. Lighter is better.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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My AP1 gives me all the grins I can handle. It meets my expectations, as is.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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If that happen, then S2000 will not stand out in the very crowded market of luxury heavy-weight sporty cars like 350Z, Boxster, SLK350, and Crossfire.

If the new S2000 weights 500lbs less, it will do great without any power increase or other "upgrades" you mentioned.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Feb 5 2006, 06:27 PM
not going to happen.
Agreed and if it did, I still would keep mine.
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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I want to see an engine reflect the new F1 specs: 2.4L V8 revving to some unGodly high limit
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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I think one of my favorite things about the S is that I feel like the underdog of the sports car market. "Yeah, I DID just do that with a 2 liter"

I don't know about a V6...
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