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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 11:14 PM
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Thank you Strike.

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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 11:56 PM
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A Final note to all.

Thumb up for 1st to 2nd to 3rd.
Thumb down for 3rd to 4th.
Thumb up for 4th to 5th.
Thumb down for 5th to 6th.

This compensates for the short shift and the angle of attack---regardless of LHD or RHD cars.
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 07:53 AM
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I don't know about you but I have missed a few shifts with WOT and this tranny. My fault but no biggy. The rev-limiter has stopped it from overreving. That's why I a little confused about you bending valves. You just can't really overrev the car. If anything, it would have bounced off the limiter. I'm not saying it's not possible but darn improbable. I've overreved racing motorcycles to over 14,000 rpms and not bent valves. I'm not saying that what you have stated is not true. Are you sure that something else didn't occur?
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 08:04 AM
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I don't see this as being your fault. It happened to me once on my prelude, i mis-shifted from 3rd to 2nd and it revved 11500 for a a brief moment. I quiclky clutched out and the car was fine.

THIS CAN HAPPY TO ANYONE HERE. So give th guy a break.


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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 08:08 AM
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Thank you Sev. Also people here seem to forget that i was shifting to forth..instead it went to 2nd..which would be a down shift. And it is to my understanding that in a down shift...they Rev limiter doesnt protect.

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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 08:12 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barry WY Silver/Black '01:
[B] Cthree, first, you do a GREAT JOB here and I offer a thousand thanks before making a tiny comment on your post.

What if the man who took the corner wrong asked Honda to replace his S2K since the S2K wasn't capable of tolerating his steering inputs and the the car failed?
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 08:55 AM
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<<You just can't really overrev the car. If anything, it would have bounced off the limiter. >>

If you miss a shift and find no gear at all the rev limiter will protect you. Since the motor is increasing the revs by it's own output power if your foot is back on the gas. Conversely if you miss a shift and get a lower gear rather than a higher gear the revs will rise very rapidly when the clutch is released. Since the motor is sped up to the RPM corresonding to that road speed, which could be above the rev limted RPM. Regardless of the limiter setting. Which will in fact engage as the revs skyrocket. The car's momentum is transferred to the motor which overwhelms the limiter action.

BTW, Celica GTS's come with warning labels giving some road speed versus gear info. Lots of those motors have been downshift overrevved. So they are trying to educate the new owners.

BTW2 lower tech high inertia motors give you a hair more time to stuff the clutch back in since the revs shoot up less rapidly.

BTW3 tight gate 6 speed box cars seem to experience more downshift overrevs in general. So do cars with "short shift" kits.

Stan

[This message has been edited by E30M3 (edited December 07, 2000).]
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 09:47 AM
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Just out of curiousity i asked the servce manager at the Honda Dealership where i bought my S2k (in FL) if they would warranty this situation.

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"any dealer that wouldnt is ripping you off, honda will cover that situation. We just replaced an SI motor for the same thing"
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 10:26 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by E30M3:
[B]<<You just can't really overrev the car. If anything, it would have bounced off the limiter. >>

If you miss a shift and find no gear at all the rev limiter will protect you.
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Old Dec 7, 2000 | 11:12 AM
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My dealer back home where I bought the car told me the same thing too. They just did a Type R and a Prelude under warranty for this. So I just dont get this dealer. Everyone that knows about Honda has told me to take it away from the dealer. That Holler is horrible. I just reported them to the Better business bureau..not because they wont cover me..but because of the service I've recieved..or havent if you want to put it right..hehe

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