Best alternative to spare tire?
Originally Posted by jlstyle82,May 8 2007, 01:41 PM
I would never take out my spare tire anymore.
I had to go to some valley in PA for the wedding last year and my car got flat tired in some mountain road where no traffic is present. I had to sleep overnight in a car in cold ass winter time since it was PITCH dark and there was no phone reception, and next day I walked like 5 hours to some village and called police and worked my way out. That was one hell of expirience. Fack the weight saving crap, fack the trunk space, you will badly miss the donut if unfortunate time comes.
I had to go to some valley in PA for the wedding last year and my car got flat tired in some mountain road where no traffic is present. I had to sleep overnight in a car in cold ass winter time since it was PITCH dark and there was no phone reception, and next day I walked like 5 hours to some village and called police and worked my way out. That was one hell of expirience. Fack the weight saving crap, fack the trunk space, you will badly miss the donut if unfortunate time comes.
that and by taking the spare out, you got some outdoor experience and some good exercise. wow, the benefits just adds on.
Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,May 8 2007, 12:52 PM
Jack the rear end of the car, take off the flat and put the spare on.
Then lower the rear and jack up the front. Take the front tire off and put the flat tire in it's place.
Then lower the front and jack up the rear AGAIN. Take off the spare and put the front tire on the rear.
Then lower the rear and jack up the front AGAIN. Take off the flat tire and put the spare on.
Then lower the rear and jack up the front. Take the front tire off and put the flat tire in it's place.
Then lower the front and jack up the rear AGAIN. Take off the spare and put the front tire on the rear.
Then lower the rear and jack up the front AGAIN. Take off the flat tire and put the spare on.
Rear flat!
Jack up front, put spare on front, lower car
Jack up rear, put front on rear, lower car
Did I miss a step?
I have seen two types of tire pressure monitoring caps. The ones that I bought detect a 3psi change in pressure, and then a little red flashing LED comes on until the battery dies. the kind that i didn't buy come in PSI ranges, and the "green" indicator drops away to reveal a "red" indicator when the pressure drops out of range.
I don't know much about in-car tire pressure monitoring systems, but from what I think I've heard, at least some of them operate by comparing the ABS sensor signals to detect a sustained small change in wheel rotation speeds. It's got to be a little more complicated than that, or every car with traction / skid control would also have tire-pressure monitoring...
I don't know much about in-car tire pressure monitoring systems, but from what I think I've heard, at least some of them operate by comparing the ABS sensor signals to detect a sustained small change in wheel rotation speeds. It's got to be a little more complicated than that, or every car with traction / skid control would also have tire-pressure monitoring...
A note of caution on the air compressors. The power outlet in the "S" is only fused for 10 amps. Most of the compressors I've seen draw at least 10. The one I bought draws about 12 under full load. I cut the plug off my compressor, replaced it with two alligator clips and run it directly off the battery.
Originally Posted by CKit,May 10 2007, 06:10 PM
I just upgraded the fuse.......

Still keep a can of fix-a-flat in the trunk, though. .....
Originally Posted by FormulaRedline,May 8 2007, 01:22 PM
Removing the tires and tools not only saves weight, but frees up a whole lot of useful trunk space. In addition to that, it's not a good idea to run the spare on your rear axle even for a little while, the difference in tire diameters has the potential to damage the differential. This makes the spare tire only useful half the time, and even then I'd rather not be seen driving around on it 

I know, I had to do this while I was on a lonely stretch of Florida Panhandle highway. I picked up a 1/4" bolt, and the tire went to 0 psi right away. An air compressor would have been useless. I have AAA, but they acted like I was somewhere in Outer Nowhere. So . . . I had to do the double swap described above. It is a real PITA, but it got me going -- safely. BTW, there is a minor pull under acel/decel so that you don't forget that you are using "crutches." Stay out of VTEC!
Since I stopped right away, the tire was undamaged and easily repairable the next day. You really want to avoid fix-a-flat. A lot of tire shops will not repair a tire after that gunk is sprayed in it. And one more thing, make sure you keep the spare inflated to 60 psi.
I have AAA membership, but don't see it as a replacement for a spare tire. It's not like their trucks have a full selection of low profile sports car tires on them.
What they can do is tow you somewhere which also doesn't have our tires in stock.
Great column on page 40 of the June '07 issue of Road and Track on this very issue ("Musings on the ignominy of driving around on a space-saver spare, and the hard realities of finding an exact replacement tire").
Another fun aspect of a flat with our cars is this: The regular tire/rim combination only fits into the trunk if wedged in at an odd, space robbing angle. Therefore, if you have a flat far from home with a trunk full of luggage, and want to change the flat out with the space saver, you will get to decide which of your possessions to leave behind. Just a thought.
What they can do is tow you somewhere which also doesn't have our tires in stock.
Great column on page 40 of the June '07 issue of Road and Track on this very issue ("Musings on the ignominy of driving around on a space-saver spare, and the hard realities of finding an exact replacement tire").
Another fun aspect of a flat with our cars is this: The regular tire/rim combination only fits into the trunk if wedged in at an odd, space robbing angle. Therefore, if you have a flat far from home with a trunk full of luggage, and want to change the flat out with the space saver, you will get to decide which of your possessions to leave behind. Just a thought.
[QUOTE=sjrick777,May 10 2007, 10:27 PM] Another fun aspect of a flat with our cars is this: The regular tire/rim combination only fits into the trunk if wedged in at an odd, space robbing angle. Therefore, if you have a flat far from home with a trunk full of luggage, and want to change the flat out with the space saver, you will get to decide which of your possessions to leave behind. Just a thought.



