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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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It probably depends on the brake pad material too... If we were to just speak generally about pads, I would have to say my Bronco brakes don't last long even when they are cold. Engine braking is more difficult in this thing because of the gearing, and I have to replace pads more often.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RACER,Jun 7 2005, 08:59 PM
A cars braking system is designed to slow down your vehicle, while a clutch is designed solely to make your car accelerate.
I think my clutch is broken. I keep pushing that stupid thing and the car just won't move.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RACER,Jun 8 2005, 08:46 AM
In the amount of time it takes you to put your foot down on the clutch, change gear, let your foot off the clutch, I will have already out braked you.
You sir, are a liar! You said you won't reply to this thread anymore!!


Just kidding man.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RACER,Jun 8 2005, 12:59 AM
Trust me, downshifting at high revs in a weak effort to slow down your automobile will wear out a clutch within 3-4 months.

A cars braking system is designed to slow down your vehicle, while a clutch is designed solely to make your car accelerate.

This is the last time I will reply in this thread. So again, I will ask the question, "which would you rather replace, the clutch, or the brake pads?"

All this talk of wasting a $800.00 clutch to save a $40.00 set of pads

Keep in mind, the compression of the engine will not brake down the speed of your automobile the way your automobile's braking system will slow down your automobile.
That's all I do. Sometimes I come to a complete stop without touching the brakes. 40k miles and the clutch is as week as when I first bought the car.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowS2kPwr,Jun 8 2005, 02:23 AM
Tell you what though... We'll both drive 70 mph side by side... there will be a brick wall in front of us, you use your brakes only, I'll use both engine breaking & my brakes... see what happens
You will stop faster if you only have to overcome the momentum of the car. Adding the extra momentum of a turning engine to the momentum of a moving car, during RAPID deceleration, will increase your stopping distance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe this to be the case.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Optikal,Jun 8 2005, 12:14 PM
It probably depends on the brake pad material too... If we were to just speak generally about pads, I would have to say my Bronco brakes don't last long even when they are cold. Engine braking is more difficult in this thing because of the gearing, and I have to replace pads more often.
That's because your Bronco weighs approximately 92,000 lb. Or thereabouts. But it was handy for that drive down to Pat's Acres....
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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If someone steals my car I hope it's you.

You have no idea dude, no idea. OE brake pads for me last about 2 hours.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spidale5,Jun 8 2005, 11:46 AM
You will stop faster if you only have to overcome the momentum of the car. Adding the extra momentum of a turning engine to the momentum of a moving car, during RAPID deceleration, will increase your stopping distance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe this to be the case.
You might want to try braking from 80 mph to 0 just by using brakes... and 80 mph by using brakes and 3rd gear 1st.... Just dont lose control of your car by disengaging the clutch too fast
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowS2kPwr,Jun 8 2005, 02:23 PM
You might want to try braking from 80 mph to 0 just by using brakes... and 80 mph by using brakes and 3rd gear 1st.... Just dont lose control of your car by disengaging the clutch too fast
Has it occured to you that if you are in ABS your tires are now providing the maximum amount of braking traction available? It is not possible to out-brake your tires. Since the brakes can provide enough force to get into ABS, this whole "engine-braking helps slow the car down even quicker" argument doesn't hold any water.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowS2kPwr,Jun 8 2005, 03:23 PM
You might want to try braking from 80 mph to 0 just by using brakes... and 80 mph by using brakes and 3rd gear 1st.... Just dont lose control of your car by disengaging the clutch too fast
I agree with the ABS comment mikegarrison, and I also agree this is a stupid disagreement since we both have ABS and we both own S2k's . However YellowS2kPwr, ABS aside, the caliper piston will have to apply a greater force to lock the brakes with the engine still engaged during rapid deceleration. On the other hand, if the momentum from the engine is decreasing more rapidly than you are braking, as in slower deceleration, then sure, the brakes will have to work less due to the aid of the decreasing momentum of the engaged engine. And somewhere in between these extremes you will find a break even point.

I disagree in fun, no hard feelings! And I don't think I've ever come anywhere close to losing control of any automobile by disenganging the clutch "too fast".
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