I was going through a little stop and go traffic on the freeway tonight, and just when things got moving again, I tried to accelerate normally in 1st gear. Car jerked pretty bad (kind of like when you see someone learning to drive a manual transmission car for the first time). I'm thinking that is has something to do with the design of the stock air intake and underhood temps (I was only doing about 1 mph).

Has anyone ever experienced this? Or do I have a more serious problem? Thanks for reading.

 

If you were accelerating into 6500 RPM's before the temperature indicator had 3 bars, then I'd say it was the rev limiter. But it doesn't sound like that is the case...

Byron

 

Uncle Fester,

That has happened to me since day one. It rears its head during stop and go traffic. The jerking is just like you explained and is pretty embarrasing. The other symptom is that when you do try and step on the gas, it seems that the engine bogs down. I usually have to push in the clutch and rev the gas until the bogging goes away.

I've explained this to my Honda mechanic and he can't figure it out. I think it is directly related to the under-the-hood temps too. We need to have an OBDII setup connected to the car so that a "snapshot" can be taken to determine what the problem really is.

Most people seem to think that this is a MAP sensor related issue, but I've been through 5 of them without any luck. In fact, I recently switched map sensors with another HouStook and I still had the lurching/bogging/jerking problem.

I'm at 68k miles now and have learned to deal with it.

 

i know EXACTLY what yr talking about, happened like 5 times after i hit 5000 miles, going about 1mph too. had the dealer chk it out but they said the car was fine...hasnt happened lately tho..could it be sth to do with the clutch?

 

I get to drive in stop and go traffic all of the time lately and I think that this behaviour is related to several things.

- The gearing in first gear for one. It is the lowest ratio and is the touchiest, because of the gearing. Also there is a certain amount of play or slop in the entire drivetrain and that adds to this problem.

- The throttle response off idle has just a bit of a lag, due to the normal engine tuning. This adds to this phenomenon.

- Due to the two items above, it is next to impossible to drive this car smoothly in first gear, near idle when you are slowing down, then speeding up.

I have been practicing my SLOW speed driving techniques a lot recently due to road construction. It is not easy to drive in stop and go traffic at very slow speeds without a lot of practice. I have been trying to drive it smoothly without using the clutch. This is the tricky part.

Good luck practicing and I don't think that you have a problem with your car.

Bob

 

I beg to differ , this car is all about smoothness at that speed!! too much gas and it bucks... too little and you could stall the car. I would say most of the time if you continue to have this problem it is because you are trying to give it too much gas at idle or just off idle with the clutch already out.

I drive in stop and go traffic all the time. I have often idled along at 3-4 mph with the clutch out and no additional throttle. As soon as traffic opens up... a little finess on the throttle and off we go. Perfectly smooth. Get too heavy footed on the gas and problems will start.

 

Sounds like a typical case of heat bog. A CAI will really help out in that situation.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red_s2k
[B]I beg to differ , this car is all about

 

I have over 100 hours of stop and go experience in the last 7 months. That's real S & G and traffic, not 100 hours of commute time. 100 hours of S & G, 0 to 5 runs, 7 mph rolls at idle, short vtech excursions, and everything S & G under the sun. If I am not good at it by now, I never will be.
Last Friday, I got 1 1/2 hours into a 3 hour S & G. The freak started on me. It's happened only a couple times before. I chalked those up to inexperience. However, last Friday I saw at least another hour of this shiot. I just happen to be heading home, so I took the back way. No problems after that.
I'm not sure what the cause is/was. All quick inspections reveal no abnormalities. Hurky Jurky only seems to happen during times when the clutch is used allot. I try to stay off it as much as possible.
I'm thinking it's due to either high under hood temperatures or high clutch/flywheel temperatures. I'm not into CAI due to the long commutes in the rain. Therefore, if it's hot air, I'll suffer. As far as the clutch issue is concerned, I think I'll just let it wear out, closely inspect it and replace it, hoping that fixes it.
I'm not going to the dealer over it. Fixing a car that you can't reproduce the problem with, is next to impossible. That

 

This issue comes up every once in a while and I have explained this in depth in the past. When and if the search ever comes back on, you can find those replies of mine but for now.......
It is not a defect in the car. It is a very common characteristic of many manual transmission cars, especially high performance ones. If you are trying to drive this slow and then try to accelerate, you should be performing more clutch work (ie. slipping the clutch). This is the most basic and fundamental lesson that is taught in any beginners motorcycle training program. A CAI may or may not alleviate the problem. It's all in the clutch/throttle coordination.
Think of it as your engine breathing very shallow and then you suddenly try to force all that air/fuel into it. It doesn't like it.
If you ever get a chance to ride on a motorcycle or a bicycle going down a hill very fast, breath shallow, get your head (mouth and nose) into the air stream, and you'll see that it makes that first breath or two very difficult. That' what you're asking your engine to do. When it's just idling over and then you feed it all that air and then ask it to move that heavy load suddenly, it doesn't like it. The result - stuttering and bogging.