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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyr,Oct 24 2010, 03:56 PM
the S IS my rainy day car, I ride a motorcycle if the weather is nice and the S if its raining. The S is fine in the rain.

Then again, I learned to drive 35 years ago when all the cars were rear wheel drive so to me the S is stuck to the road like glue in the rain. I went a whole year with my S being my daily as I was trying to go without a bike after soccer mom ran a stop but I eventually got back on 2 wheels and now my S is my bad weather car, its fine, drive it and love it.
We must live in a parallel universe. You just described me exactly!

I was also hit on my bike by a soccer mom that ran a light.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by idea-catalyst,Oct 24 2010, 06:19 PM
There is no driving in the ice and snow "without issue".
For most of my driving life I drove with real winters, with lake effect snow, ice and the joys of getting stuck behind a line of snow plows.

I can tell you that I drove with all seasons and none of us really found it to be an issue. Every now and again you'd take a bad line in a lane way and need a push but for day to day driving it was a none issue.

I by no means am saying I'm a great driver or some gift from God behind the wheel. However to suggest that some snow or ice on the ground turns this car into a death trap is ignorant. 50 years ago there wasn't much better and people still moved around.

Recently I was driving down from WA to CA and there was black ice on the road. Even while driving at 5AM I could see it on the side of teh road. If you followed the car tracks ahead of you and stayed slow, say 45 instead of 75 there were no issues. I even tested emergency stop from 75 to test the road, very dangerous. So as my wife and I are driving back doing 45 in the slow lane there are morons flying by us at 75+. Only a few miles later to be see in the ditch, driving off a bridge or in a creek. I kid you not. No one adjusted for the conditions.

Failing to adjust for the road conditions is why people get hurt in any car. Sadly it seems driver training has gone out the window.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Never had any issues here. As long as you have good tread and slow down to the appropriate speeds for the conditions it's just like any other car. Some car control skills do help if you find yourself in a slight skid.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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http://www.tomolesnevich.com/snowpocalypse-in-the-s2000

You can drive in the rain, you can drive in the snow, you can drive in whatever, all "without issue". It's just a car. Just make sure the tires (and driver) are up to the job.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by marshajr1,Jul 1 2003, 07:52 AM
Alright...now I need some REAL clarification on this rain danger deal. I just bought a S2K and I hadn't read anything in the news about Honda recalls or similar things. No mention about Bridgestone recalls for safety. No mention from the dealer that "be aware that you'll kill yourself if you attempt to drive this car in the rain...enjoy!" Hell, one guy in another post said that his S went sideways in the rain just by the wind of an adjacent truck!!!!!!! What's up with that???

I live in coastal Virginia and plan on driving my S to work every day, year round (20 miles each way). Oh, if we have snow, I'll certainly consider waiting for it to melt, etc. But reality says that snow events will happen in the middle of the day, while I'm already driving. Am I going to kill myself when that happens?????

All I hear about on these boards is people that garage keep their sweeties and rub them with a diaper and NEVER NEVER take them out unless it's perfect conditions. Too much pressure for me...I want to drive my S, clean and wax my S, admire it and show it off like anyone BUT I'll certainly be driving it in the rain. It has a top and has wipers for Christ sake!!!!

I'll be tooling around my 12 y.o. daughter all summer. If there is a hint of risk that I'll put her in danger when a summer afternoon storm hits (those of you that live on the humid east coast from DC to Florida know exactly what I mean) I'll have a 10 day old car for sale!!!!!!

Screw this car if it presents a CLEAR and PRESENT DANGER no matter how much I love it.


Jim in Virginia Beach

(Starting to seriously question the purchase of an '03 Suzuka Blue.)

I think this issue comes down to the fact that people don't know how to drive a RW car. I've had an '00 for a year and an '03 for the past 3 years. 4 years total driving an S2000 year round in Central Illinois.

I have the original equipment Bridgestone Potenzas on my car.

I've never had a "close call" in the rain. Ever.

The car drives predictably like a RW drive car. Of course I'm not throttling into turns during a storm or driving unsafely on wet roads.

I also drive my S2000 during the winter here. Yes, I drive the car through the snow and yes, I've driven the car through snow storms. This, of course, takes further precaution but I don't find it dangerous. Again, the car drives with predictable RW response and I adjust accordingly.

As long as I've been a member on this board I'm always confused when this topic presents itself.

The car is not dangerous. I will go on record and say that any "close calls" are completely due to driver error. This car doesn't exactly have a lot of torque, so unless you're hitting VTEC going into corners while the roads are wet or snow covered I have no idea how people are getting into any sort of trouble.

Perhaps it's the fact that when I turned 16 my father bought me this as my first vehicle...........







I've since restored it to what it looks like in these pictures. Maybe driving that through the rain and snow as a 16 year old in Chicago has made me the driver I am today. I don't mean to sound arrogant or anything, but perhaps learning to drive in a 360 hp car with gobs of torque has given me a different perspective on things. I started driving RW when I got my license 15 years ago and have driven nothing else since as a daily driver.

I still maintain that if you drive with the current road conditions in mind there isn't anything to worry about.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:02 PM
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In so many cases that we’ve seen, the weakest point in the drivetrain would be the driver.

-from s2ki fornt page.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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These are some of the most irresponsible comments I have read in a while.
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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i've driven at higher speeds in heavy rain on uneven roads with rt615 tyres which were close to the tread depth marker with stock suspension and found the S to be very controllable. You just need to be gentle with your inputs.

If you are driving normally, you should have no problems.
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