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overst33r 11-29-2008 05:07 PM

Decided to see what kind of mpg I could get
 
Our of curiosity I decided to see what I can manage in the new car to compare it to the old one ('95 Miata)...

Speed was between 65-70mph. The route was 90 miles. 12 of those miles were stop and go driving. I managed 37.3 mpg I figure 90 miles should be enough distance to eliminate the error in pump shut off and give me a decent estimate.

That's impressive to me considering the miata got 36mpg and has 400 less cc's and turns about the same rpm. So for all intents and purposes the two cars get about the same MPG, but the miata weighs 400lbs less.

shotgunjimmy 11-29-2008 05:30 PM

thats pretty good mileage! best ive gotten is 31, ALL highway, cruising at 75.

luder_5555 11-29-2008 05:31 PM

i'd say that pump error could still be counted for, cause that's less than 3 gallons, and the pump cut off could easily be up to a quarter gallon, which would be about a 8-10% differance, so it could be anywhere from about 34-40mpg by that count, still great.

someone needs to go on a long trip with the s and do a full tank without any fun to see what it can get with full certanty.

still i'd be happy with even 30 for a rt.

i know that in my lude i got an average of 34mpg to WA and back, and that was wit some spirited passing, so i'd say with strick driving it could get about the same as well.

s2kapow 11-29-2008 06:09 PM

That's amazing mileage (at least to me it is). Was this round trip? Just wondering if mileage was enhanced by a lot of downhill driving (maybe your endpoint is at a lower elevation than your start point?). But, seeing that you're in FL I doubt this is the case.

I've owned my S for 1.5 years and 9k miles, and I haven't even hit 30mpg average for a tank yet. But then again, my driving is about 70/30 city/highway, and I've never done a highway road trip so it's tough to compare.

I :heart: the F20C & F22C -- performance when you want it, great mileage when you're just cruising. :thumbup:

UmarS2K 11-29-2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by luder_5555,Nov 29 2008, 06:31 PM
someone needs to go on a long trip with the s and do a full tank without any fun to see what it can get with full certanty.

That's impossible for me to do. I have to hit VTEC at all times.

UmarS2K 11-29-2008 06:17 PM

BTW, I calculated my city mpg (yes, strictly city driving) and average 19.1 mpg. That's with hitting VTEC almost every time before shifting into the next gear. :)

rustywave 11-29-2008 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by luder_5555,Nov 29 2008, 09:31 PM
i'd say that pump error could still be counted for, cause that's less than 3 gallons, and the pump cut off could easily be up to a quarter gallon, which would be about a 8-10% differance, so it could be anywhere from about 34-40mpg by that count, still great.

someone needs to go on a long trip with the s and do a full tank without any fun to see what it can get with full certanty.

still i'd be happy with even 30 for a rt.

i know that in my lude i got an average of 34mpg to WA and back, and that was wit some spirited passing, so i'd say with strick driving it could get about the same as well.

:iagree:

i don't think you can get a fair number w/o doing a full tank. and a few at that...then average it out. i had a trip from texas to illinois that saw roughly 30.5 mpg each tank. probably 75 mph the whole time, and as it was my first day in the S, i hadn't really discovered VTEC yet.

37 mpg seems a bit too high! unless you had some crazy tailwind...

Vik2000 11-29-2008 06:29 PM

that's crazy mileage... wtf

ThatllHappen 11-29-2008 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by luder_5555,Nov 29 2008, 09:31 PM
i'd say that pump error could still be counted for, cause that's less than 3 gallons, and the pump cut off could easily be up to a quarter gallon, which would be about a 8-10% differance, so it could be anywhere from about 34-40mpg by that count, still great.

someone needs to go on a long trip with the s and do a full tank without any fun to see what it can get with full certanty.

still i'd be happy with even 30 for a rt.

i know that in my lude i got an average of 34mpg to WA and back, and that was wit some spirited passing, so i'd say with strick driving it could get about the same as well.

Did it a couple months ago driving down to south Georgia and got like 33 or 34 mpg. I was a mixture of stop and go and highway driving from North Alabama to South Georgia. Have the data saved in a spreadsheet but its on another computer.

overst33r 11-29-2008 08:23 PM

If it helps any, I get about 26mpg in my regular commute which is about 70hwy/30city. Even with the possible error, I'd say 35mpg is attainable in this car at speeds below 70.

S14 to S2k 11-29-2008 08:30 PM

yea i believe someone did a test a bit back and they got pretty good mileage even with top down the whole ride.

37 is prob. an error. that's like....hybrid status. but this is what i love about this car too. you will probably never see anything over 30 on a Z. the fact that you can get 30 mpg all highway doing 75 seems really good to me.

JERO 11-29-2008 08:45 PM

Best tank: (AP1) OEM hardtop on, cruise set on 74mph, mostly flat ground. Entire tank just over 30mpg. 337 miles and 11 gallons I think it was.

Earlier this summer I drove an entire tank in mixed driving, but shifting at 4K in first, then 3.5K all the way to 6th. Got 29mpg on an entire tank, but it was so painful I will never do it again :)

I typically get 23-24 driving it how I like.

vtec9 12-02-2008 06:49 AM

I don't think 37 is possible. The best I've ever gotten was 31 with a bit of stop and go but mainly cruising at 75 on the highway. I think 33-34 is possible on flat with cruise control pegged to ~75, but 37 is stretching it especially when 13% of the driving was stop and go.

Tjs S2k 12-02-2008 06:53 AM

Me here, decent accel , hitting vtec maybe 2-3 times a day (summer) not to much anymore because its colder out. 4.77s , I average 26 mpg, 70% highway driving. With the high rpms with the gears, i bet if you wanted the S for a gas car (not sure why) but if you put a crazy low rear end in it like a 3.10 or something I bet you would see over 45mpg

vtec9 12-02-2008 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Tjs S2k,Dec 2 2008, 10:53 AM
Me here, decent accel , hitting vtec maybe 2-3 times a day (summer) not to much anymore because its colder out. 4.77s , I average 26 mpg, 70% highway driving. With the high rpms with the gears, i bet if you wanted the S for a gas car (not sure why) but if you put a crazy low rear end in it like a 3.10 or something I bet you would see over 45mpg

No way. If I had 3.10s instead of 4.10s, I would be a bit over 3,000 rpm crusing at 75mpg instead of ~4,000 rpm now. If I could get 45mpg at 3,000 rpm with 3.10s, then I would be able to get a mpg in the same ballpark at 3,000 rpm withg 4.10s.. I'd just be moving more slowly.

rikhemi 12-02-2008 07:21 AM

Ive gotten 33mpg with 50 degree weather and no vtec ranging from 65-75mph. AC was off and windows up.

37 is up there..

honda606 12-02-2008 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by vtec9,Dec 2 2008, 09:49 AM
I don't think 37 is possible.

It isn't. His calculations are clearly off. No amount of short shifting or slow driving will get an F20C to 37MPG.

LittleBluePill 12-02-2008 08:50 AM

I guess it would be possible if you did a lot of coasting down hills.

ECale3 12-02-2008 09:00 AM

I got 200 miles out of a half tank before. that one was crazy!

Tjs S2k 12-02-2008 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=vtec9,Dec 2 2008, 12:04 PM] No way.

dparm 12-02-2008 10:01 AM

Draft big SUVs and trucks and you can get at least a 10-15% bump in mileage. I used to watch the little instantaneous MPG calculator on my Mazdaspeed3 and it would literally jump from 30 to 33 if I tailgated a big semi or even just a larger SUV.

Tjs S2k 12-02-2008 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by dparm,Dec 2 2008, 03:01 PM
Draft big SUVs and trucks and you can get at least a 10-15% bump in mileage. I used to watch the little instantaneous MPG calculator on my Mazdaspeed3 and it would literally jump from 30 to 33 if I tailgated a big semi or even just a larger SUV.

they did that on mythbusters, I think they ended up getting like 5-10mpg better from like 60 ft or something.

u8myrice 12-02-2008 10:24 AM

On my way back to NOVA from Virginia Tech, I drafted behind an Escalade the whole way, going 80-90MPH. My gas mileage was like 34MPG. I made it home in about 3 hours. LOL!!

vtec9 12-02-2008 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Tjs S2k,Dec 2 2008, 01:23 PM
Its like saying cruising at 5mph in first gear (say like 3k) will get you the same gas mileage at 60mph in 6th gear (3k)

Na, it's like saying you will get similar gas mileage cruising at 3k in 5th as you will in 6th.. which you do.

Kempy 12-02-2008 10:40 AM

I've done a whole tank once without any fun.
It was raining heavy all day and I had to use my car for work so decided to just cruise. It was all motorway driving.

Got 365 miles out of the tank.
Worked it out after the refill and calculated 36.5 MPG.
Oh yeah that was on Super Unleaded (99Ron)

Pretty pleased with that :)

honda606 12-02-2008 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Kempy,Dec 2 2008, 01:40 PM
I've done a whole tank once without any fun.
It was raining heavy all day and I had to use my car for work so decided to just cruise. It was all motorway driving.

Got 365 miles out of the tank.
Worked it out after the refill and calculated 36.5 MPG.
Oh yeah that was on Super Unleaded (99Ron)

Pretty pleased with that :)

With a 13.2 gallon tank, how did your calculations lead to 36.5 MPG? :confused:

vtec9 12-02-2008 02:34 PM

I'm assuming he filled up 10 gallons??

S14 to S2k 12-02-2008 05:31 PM

hmm so i guess big SUV's do have a use other than being the aholes on the road...i guess i should try drafting lol.

EVAN&MONICA 12-02-2008 06:02 PM

you guys have no fun. The best Ive ever managed is 25mpg :LOL:
:rev: :burnrubr: :vtec:

G 12-02-2008 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by ThuG LyFe,Nov 29 2008, 09:30 PM
yea i believe someone did a test a bit back and they got pretty good mileage even with top down the whole ride.

37 is prob. an error. that's like....hybrid status. but this is what i love about this car too. you will probably never see anything over 30 on a Z. the fact that you can get 30 mpg all highway doing 75 seems really good to me.

That would probably be me. Below is the link to the write up. Just for shits and giggles sometime when I am bored, I will perform the test with the hardtop on to see what I can get out of her since there has always been a discussion about top up / top down. I think 37 is doable, it will not be much fun, but doable none the less.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...pic=609115&hl=

aCab 12-02-2008 07:10 PM

How many of you have filled up your tank with more than say, 11.6 gallons? I'm trying to find out the range of my car on a full tank. Everytime I fill up after driving with no bars for about 30 miles, the most I've put in is 11.6 gallons. This weekend, I put 10.8 gallons in after driving about 20 miles on no bars.

The digital fuel gauge is the only thing that really bothers me on the S, especially when I gain a bar without filling up! Quite perplexing.

G 12-02-2008 08:10 PM

11.511 is the most I have ever put in.

Opposite_Lock 12-02-2008 11:37 PM

Jeez...37?! I didn't think that was possible. I'm averaging 21mpg h/c mix. Normal driving with very minimal WOT. I dropped about 2-3mpg after I went from TP/exhaust to stock cats/exhaust on average.

Most I've ever filled up is 11.6 as well.

Kempy 12-03-2008 06:41 AM

Well it was quite a while ago so I cant remember how much fuel I put in or the price per litre.

Anyhow I worked it out as follows:-
Cost of fill up (

AP2Berlina 12-03-2008 06:46 AM

man that seems really high...i dont understand how you guys get such great gas mileage...typical for me city driving/mixed highway 18-20 mpg

all highway cruising- 22-24 mpg

the best i ever got was 26.6 mpg which was a 7 hour road trip bringin the car home 65 and under and all of these are without revving the car up into the vtec range and i have been taking gas mileage on all my cars since the day i got them...got books and books of it.. it makes no sense to me ....my car sucks lol

Blacknot 12-03-2008 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by honda606,Dec 2 2008, 09:35 AM
It isn't. His calculations are clearly off. No amount of short shifting or slow driving will get an F20C to 37MPG.

:iagree:

damuho 12-03-2008 11:08 AM

I get 22-24mpg in mixed city and highway driving and with hitting VTEC every once in a while. With my car, 37mpg sounds impossible.

Good thing gas is so much cheaper these days.

ECale3 12-03-2008 12:29 PM

I average 25 MPG with about 50/50 City Highway mix (VTEC pwns me :LOL:). Also, as I mentioned I got 200mi on a 1/2 tank all highway ( refilled from half to full after the 200 miles and it was 5.3 gallons). That's 37.7 MPG. So it is doable. I am still suprised because I was cruising at a pretty high speed for fuel economy (75).

iatros 12-03-2008 01:47 PM

I agree. No way 37 mpg. Ive pegged my cruise control at 73 driving across texas with a full tank of 91 octane and the best I could do was around 26-28.

Kempy 12-04-2008 01:25 PM

Maybe thats the difference then.

I run on 99ron petrol. (Super Unleaded here in the UK)

I notice a difference in my MPG when im forced to put normal 95ron unleaded. Never actually done a proper MPG test tho.

So I recon 91 ron must be a massive difference.

G 12-04-2008 04:30 PM

[QUOTE=Kempy,Dec 4 2008, 02:25 PM] Maybe thats the difference then.

I run on 99ron petrol. (Super Unleaded here in the UK)

I notice a difference in my MPG when im forced to put normal 95ron unleaded.

amthompson 12-04-2008 08:01 PM

Don't know how the hell you people drive but I cant seem to manage more than 22. Granted I need a new air filter Badly... I think vtec is the bigger issue.

ECale3 12-04-2008 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by iatros,Dec 3 2008, 06:47 PM
I agree. No way 37 mpg. Ive pegged my cruise control at 73 driving across texas with a full tank of 91 octane and the best I could do was around 26-28.

I run 93 octane.

CG 12-05-2008 05:11 AM

The best tank I ever had in my AP1 was a little over 28mpg with an average speed of 90mph.


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