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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 10:42 AM
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I try to do it when there are no cars around since I'm just learning to do it. And it's only when I'm trying to take a cornoer fast.
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 10:58 AM
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what do you call heel-toe?
I dunno the word in french...
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 11:10 AM
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Mon cher le car,

L'expression en francais est "pointe-talon"...

Salutations!

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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 11:27 AM
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I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to sports car handling and I'm sure there are others out there like me. Could someone experienced with these techniques take the time to explain what is meant by rev matching and heel and toeing. Or is there some book on this subject that might be available. Sounds like a lot of fun and I would like to try driving my car at a track like Summit sometime where I'm sure these techniques would really help. Thanks
Originally posted by PLAYLIFE:
I dunno if its my driving style, but I find the car quite impossible to drive around without doing heel toe when downshifting, does anyone else have this problem?

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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 11:40 AM
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Excellent info on the Physics of Racing, linked to s2ki.com:
http://members.home.net/rck/phor/index.html

Enjoy, and practice makes perfect!
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 11:49 AM
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I have to H/T on my car, after I have learned H/T last year. I even try to do it on Automatic and realized that you can't do that. I don't think I will ever get an automatic car, let's hope not. Without H/T, driving is no longer fun.

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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 11:51 AM
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FYI Guys:

I'm sure most of you know this, but I'll post it anyway. Downshifting like this when stopping puts unnecessary wear and tear on the clutch and the tranny, two points of this car that have already been identified as being on the weak side. In general: brakes are cheaper than clutches and trannys, so use them up first (-:

That said, double-clutching, heel-toeing, and rev-matching are great fun! And it's great to be able to do both naturally for those days when you just happen to swing by the track on the way to work (-;

I usually try to moderate my double-clutching (which is even worse on the clutch than just rev-matching and downshifting), only doing it if I'm slowing down for a turn or an off ramp, etc. If I'm going to come to a complete stop, I usually throw it in neutral and rely on the brakes. Usually....
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 12:08 PM
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Wait a minute, I thought H/T driving cut down on the clutch wear because the revs match and the clutch doesn't have to do as much slipping. I may be wrong, but after all these miles on my slammer pickup, I'm on my first replacement clutch and Ive been a H/T driver the whole time. I'm really looking forward to trying it out on the stook. Maybe I'm wrong. Just my $.02
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Old Nov 17, 2000 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by wirejock:
Wait a minute, I thought H/T driving cut down on the clutch wear because the revs match and the clutch doesn't have to do as much slipping.
Rev matching is what saves the clutch and makes for smooth driving. It can be done either with or without heel/toeing.

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Old Nov 18, 2000 | 07:48 AM
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Going Faster! (1997, Bentley Publishers, Cambridge MA; tel. 800-423-4595; htp://www.rb.com; stock #GDBA ISBN 0-8376-0227-0; $29.95) from The Skip Barber Racing School is about $30 and available from the Skip Barber web site and other sources. It has a good presentation of these downshifting techniques and their applications. It is also an excellent guide for those of us who find the S2000 to be much more of a car than we are drivers, and who don't get to the track every weekend for a few rounds with our instructor-friend. Learning to drive from a book is obviously a distant 2nd-best, but it's better than nothing! This is a good book.
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