So I was right! Ha!

 

[QUOTE=turbo_pwr,Jan 9 2006, 01:51 AM] But it's not sent back in time, it would be sent forward.

 

I must not be thinking clearly or you guys really do everything upside down in Aus.

If it's built in 1999 and said to be a 2000 vehicle. The vehicle is designated as something in the future. The future would be forward. If the vehicle was built in 2000 but said to be a 1999 vehicle it would be something that has already happened and in the past, hence back in time.

 

Does Honda recognize a MY 99 in any market? I don't think so. I would like to see a publication from Honda such as a sales brochure or perhaps a JDM shop manual that includes the MY 99. I don't think your gonna find one because there is no MY 99 in any country. As far as people listing a MY 99 for sale in the UK, good for them. Whether owners in other markets consider a car manufactured in 1999 a MY 99 is irrelevant, does Honda consider it so? Can you order parts for a MY 99?
Has anyone ever heard of a 64 1/2 Ford Mustang? They exist, collectors look for them, but they are really a 1965.

BTW I got my 2003 in December 2002, does that mean I really bought an 02? Oh man, I got screwed!

 

Well, as im sure you didnt realize, in the UK cars are determined by their license plate character designation as this changes with each year of vehicle production. So, cars back in 99 would have been sold as a T or V plate (T being sold before August 1999 and V sold after August 1999). If you were to buy an S2000 from a dealer at that time, or need parts for your S2000 now, you would refer to it as a 99T or 99V, not a MY00. The MY concept is something adopted in North America.

Also, IIRC, the S2000 debuted in Japan in April 1999. Do you think they called that a MY00 even though it was around for 8 months before the millenium?

 

So, Honda still does not consider them a MY 1999 correct? They were not sold by Honda as a 1999 model. There are no brochures or parts for MY 1999 even in the UK correct?
The government in UK doesn't decide, nor does our government here in the US. I believe it is Honda the manufacturer of the product who decides with what model year a particular vehicle is badged.

BTW Yes I'm aware there were MY 2000's on the road in 1999 in Japan.

I just re-checked the EDM ESM (electronic service manual) for 2000 and it lists 2000 as the first model year. I'm gonna PM a screen grab to S2000GT shortly.

 

I think you misinterpreted what I said (as you did with the original person you quoted on this). I did not say that in the UK there is a MY1999. I didnt say the UK government classifies their cars as MY1999.

What I said was is that when you buy a UK car, you buy a registration year - NOT a model year. When the new car registrations #s were released towards the end of the year (back when it was once a year and on Aug 1st), you would be buying whatever that REGISTRATION year was.

In this case, if you bought an S2000 in 1999 before August 1 you owned a 1999T, after August 1st you owned a 1999V. If you bought it after Jan 1st 2000, then you owned a 2000T .... see where I am going with this?

If you look on your V5 form (equivalent of your car title over here), you would own a 1999V or 1999T depending when in 1999 you bought the car .... again no mention of MY at all.

MY is simply a concept that isnt adopted over there - the registration year is - that dictates the age of a car. You can tell how old ANY car is in the UK by looking at the license plate and its designations.

To answer your other question - if you went to a Honda Parts depts and needed something - here they ask for you model year, over there they would as for you "reg" in which you would reply...."its a 99T mate"

 

In my original post that you quoted I asked "Does Honda consider it so?". If the manufacturer does not recognize a model year it does not exist. It is not a matter of the market. It is what a product is designated by the manufacturer as it is sold to the consumer.
As far as me being confused (about this anyway), I have used the term Model Year from the very begining.

Ya, then they would look up the 2000 model year in EPC (I have that as well) and give you the correct part.

 

My post was not meant to be demeaning. The reason for the lack of certainty is that I was not certain. The reason I used no "smilies" is that I was not sure about the validity of the statement.

I do realize that I have burden of proof here. I have attempted to find proof and failed; I accept that I am wrong.

I just want to make that clear.

 

I must admit, my fragile ego and I took it as a little jab having just lost face a post or two prior. (trying to quit smoking too) I'm sorry for being for being kinda smartass in my come back. Also, I appreciate your post letting me know there is no ill will and I thank you for it.