does it use gas to slow down by downshifting
Originally Posted by kelvin96gsr,Aug 3 2005, 11:57 PM
of course it uses more gas.
greater rpm= more gas usage
greater rpm= more gas usage
and if your rpm's shoot up, but you are slowing down, then no, it does not waste gas. because you are not stepping on the gas means the momentum of the engine is what is keeping it going, not the gas. in fact, you would waste gas cruising in neutral to slow down vs. slowing down in gear.
the only gas u waste is what is used to rev match which is minimal, if you decided to do so. if i am wrong, someone correct me.
You rev match when you downshift so that your clutch doesn't slip. If you don't rev match, that sudden "slowing down" you feel, is your engine speeding up to match the speed of the wheels. Your clutch takes the brunt of this. If you do not rev match when you downshift, your clutch will suffer more wear.
When you rev match to downshift, yes, you use more gas. You're revving the engine with no forward progress, so essentially that gas is being wasted. It might be a minimal amount, but technically the gas isn't being used to move the car, so I suppose you could say it's not necessary usage, and therefore it's wasted.
If you really want to save gas, just put the car in neutral (or put the clutch in) and use the brakes to slow down. Then put the car back in gear when you want to go again. No damage to your clutch, no wasted gas. But then again, how much fun would that be?
When you rev match to downshift, yes, you use more gas. You're revving the engine with no forward progress, so essentially that gas is being wasted. It might be a minimal amount, but technically the gas isn't being used to move the car, so I suppose you could say it's not necessary usage, and therefore it's wasted.
If you really want to save gas, just put the car in neutral (or put the clutch in) and use the brakes to slow down. Then put the car back in gear when you want to go again. No damage to your clutch, no wasted gas. But then again, how much fun would that be?
Engine braking is a little tougher on your clutch, engine mounts, tranny mounts and tranny. Rev matching is a related issue as it helps to prevent that initial jerk to your car, but then engine braking afterwards still puts extra stress on your car.
Use your brakes to slow you down. Its cheaper to change brake pads than it is to change transmission/engine parts.
Use your brakes to slow you down. Its cheaper to change brake pads than it is to change transmission/engine parts.
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Originally Posted by L8-APX,Aug 3 2005, 11:37 PM
Engine braking is a little tougher on your clutch, engine mounts, tranny mounts and tranny. Rev matching is a related issue as it helps to prevent that initial jerk to your car, but then engine braking afterwards still puts extra stress on your car.
Use your brakes to slow you down. Its cheaper to change brake pads than it is to change transmission/engine parts.
Use your brakes to slow you down. Its cheaper to change brake pads than it is to change transmission/engine parts.
More drivers need to understand this.
Originally Posted by L8-APX,Aug 3 2005, 11:37 PM
Rev matching is a related issue as it helps to prevent that initial jerk to your car, but then engine braking afterwards still puts extra stress on your car.
I don't see how engine braking puts any more wear on your engine than just decelerating with the car in gear- that's pretty much all that you're doing.
our cars have great brakes, there is no need to shorten the life of the clutch.
Originally Posted by i_heart_my_DB8,Aug 4 2005, 12:30 AM
If you really want to save gas, just put the car in neutral (or put the clutch in) and use the brakes to slow down. Then put the car back in gear when you want to go again. No damage to your clutch, no wasted gas. But then again, how much fun would that be? 

but to answer the original question. gas is used in neutral, but not used in gear when slowing down so it would be the opposite of this statement. that is why if you are in gear and let your car slow to a stop, the engine will die because it is not getting gas. of coarse this isn't how the normal person drives.
here is a useful example. it is useful if there are lots of long hills in your area. i used to cruise down the 405 in neutral applying brakes to maintain speed thinking i was saving gas, but now i just get up to speed, stay in gear and let the hill build momentum for me in gear.
i agree, brakes are cheaper than clutches.



