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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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I saw this on the tail end of a subject here. i like to downshift and decel in this car not to any extreams just gradual in a car that has a very wide power band it's nice to be able to take off out of a corner with toe healing.

Somone said this puts no more stress on the drivetrain than moderate acceleration. true?

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KNJ,Jan 11 2005, 02:45 PM
I saw this on the tail end of a subject here. i like to downshift and decel in this car not to any extreams just gradual in a car that has a very wide power band it's nice to be able to take off out of a corner with toe healing.

Somone said this puts no more stress on the drivetrain than moderate acceleration. true?

Thanks!
I don't see that slowing down under nothing but engine compression puts any unusual stress on the drive train (transmission & differential). It's certainly not as stressful as spirited acceleration and especially not as hard on the components as full throttle acceleration. About the only thing you need to try to do is rev match the downshifts so as not putting undue wear and tear on the clutch but since you mention heal/toeing out of corners and such, I'll assume you're already doing that.

It also doesn't hurt the longevity of the brake linings.

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Thanks! Any other opinions or is the above fact and the case closed?
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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I've always wanted someone to explain rev-matching and the heel-toe method.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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heel toeing (simple explanation) is depressing the gas pedal while braking so when you exit the turn the car is the fat part of the power band (in our case keeping the car in VTEC) complicated and unless you are on the track a lot difficult to master, i decel into curves by downshifting and braking so i am close to a high RPM when exiting.
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hate Me,Jan 13 2005, 04:28 AM
I've always wanted someone to explain rev-matching and the heel-toe method.
http://applications.edmunds.com/ownership/...92/article.html

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Thanks

Definitely will take some practice...time to go to an empty parking lot
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Rev-matching is only way to drive S2000.
It is made for it. Sharp throttle response, perfect pedal layout.

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by soundzero,Jan 12 2005, 01:47 PM
Rev-matching is only way to drive S2000.
It is made for it. Sharp throttle response, perfect pedal layout.
with the first sentence. However, I've had a hard time heal/toeing my S2000. Just can't seem to find a position where I can get my foot turned to find the gas peddle while putting any signficant pressure on the brake at the same time.

I noticed that the S2k Marketplace has a set of aftermarket peddle covers with an extra wide gas peddle that are supposed to make heal/toeing the S2000 easier. Anyone happen to use these and if so, would you mind posting your opinion on them?

Also, I've found it hard to rev match my S2000 because the gear ratios are relatively close together the engine gains and looses rpm's very quickly when it's not loaded. Actually, it does "real" good when it's under a load too but you guys know what I'm talking about! Anyway, I can usually rev match on a two gear downshift (6-4, 5-3, etc) without too much trouble but rev matching a single gear downshift (6-5, 4-3, etc) has proven to be more difficult. I'll inevitably over rev the engine for the lower gear with the resulting "lurch" forward when I release the clutch. I've pretty much gotten away from this by "not" trying to blip the throttle so much, when disengaging the clutch, as simply holding it steady in a relatively neutral position and letting the engine rev naturally when it unloads as the clutch lets go. Most of the time, I can execute a reasonably smooth single gear downshift using this method.

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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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I can't roll my foot that way. I keep the ball of my foot on the brake and blip with my heel. Pedals are spaced perfectly for that for me.
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