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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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what are some pros and cons of running non staggered wheel setup..

i like to be able to rotate my tires.. but if it may hinder my handling .. ill stick with buying tires every year lol..
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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more prone to oversteer.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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I agree. No stagger = way too much oversteer.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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i was told you cannot rotate tires to to hub bore being different.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KnowledgeIsPower,May 18 2007, 02:18 AM
i was told you cannot rotate tires to to hub bore being different.
The hub rings for aftermarket wheels will allow you to rotate them.

The real benefits of the non-staggered set up are seen at the track. A 17x9 with 255 Toyo RA1's will give you better high speed braking, turn in and excelleration over a larger rear tire (like a 275). But you will need to set your car up correctly as far as corner balance, spring rates and a large front swaybar. A wing will also help along with proper tire pressures.

I'm not an expert on this, but I will have more info after some more track time with this set up.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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That's correct, but you could move the tires between the front and rear wheels (assuming the wheels were of equal width and diameter, to match the equal size of the tires).
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Old May 18, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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I wonder how the car would handle with no stagger, a fatter FSB, and no RSB.
I wonder if you could get the front bar stiff enough.

Whatever, eleminating the stagger isn't a great idea. The only "pro" I can see is that you could rotate the tires.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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The initial question should be: How are you planning to drive the car and what kind of driver are you?

Just remember that when Honda engineered the S it was designed with stagger. The reason was for better control of the car across many differant driving situations. So ask yourself what and how am I going to be driving this car.

I also don't believe that you will get any better tire life by rotating the tires on the S. I personally think that by not having the tires staggered, tire life would be about the same if not even less.

The best way to keep your tires in good order would be to make sure that the tire pressure is always checked and maintained along with making sure that the alignment is also correct.

Again before you can really answer what tire and wheel type and size or stagger or no stagger, you need to answer how are you going to be driving your car. In my personally opinion, Honda designed the car with stagger and I believe that is probably the best way to keep it.

Good Luck,
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Old May 18, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyB,May 18 2007, 04:03 AM
The initial question should be: How are you planning to drive the car and what kind of driver are you?

Just remember that when Honda engineered the S it was designed with stagger. The reason was for better control of the car across many differant driving situations. So ask yourself what and how am I going to be driving this car.

I also don't believe that you will get any better tire life by rotating the tires on the S. I personally think that by not having the tires staggered, tire life would be about the same if not even less.

The best way to keep your tires in good order would be to make sure that the tire pressure is always checked and maintained along with making sure that the alignment is also correct.

Again before you can really answer what tire and wheel type and size or stagger or no stagger, you need to answer how are you going to be driving your car. In my personally opinion, Honda designed the car with stagger and I believe that is probably the best way to keep it.

Good Luck,
alot of great info.. thanks


considering i have access to alignment racks all day long.. tire pressures at 34psi cold.. alignments just tits lol

after putting just over 10k miles on my car.. my front tires.. look brand spanking new haha.. rears gonna need to replaced .. well now.. but gonna hold out till they are bald hehe.. for some drifting fun.. but anyways.. love the way it handles now and if it doesnt improve. than i guess the factory set up is awesome for me
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