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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Planning on purchasing some springs for my MY02 s2000. I need some suggestions from those who has experience these kind of springs. Such as how many inches the car drop? Camber kit needed? Will running aftermarket springs **** up the shocks on a daily driving? Any input would kindly help.

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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tudernos,Oct 29 2005, 10:01 AM
Planning on purchasing some springs for my MY02 s2000. I need some suggestions from those who has experience these kind of springs. Such as how many inches the car drop? Camber kit needed? Will running aftermarket springs **** up the shocks on a daily driving? Any input would kindly help.

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1. Espelir (Japan)
2. Eibach (American)

*** Both are good springs, Eibach are more well-known in the US market. Depends on what you like.

3. between 0.25" to 3" max.

4. Camber Kit? DEFINITELY YES. Does not matter how low you've lowered your car, camber kit helps.

5. Yes. It WILL fk up your stock shocks because of weight and pressure of the car pushing down on the shocks / struts.

any further questions, if i could be more futher assistance, spit it out then i'll spit it back at ya.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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KG/MM Supersports D21 !!! The very best.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Well, not to counter out AP1 Honda too much, but. I have the KG/MM race springs (similar to the Espelirs). I am running them on stock shocks as well.

There are about 40k miles on the car with these springs on and stock shocks. The shocks are FINE, nothing wrong with them at all. They can handle it. The drop is about 1.25 to 1.5", and a camber kit is not needed. Honda put a lot of camber adjustment capability into this car stock. Sure, you can get a camber kit, but its really not required unless you are looking make your car full race. I personally run 2 degrees negative camber in the back and 1 degree in the front. The car should be set-up with some camber because it greatly improves cornerning.

Anyway, I don't know if either the Eibach or the Espelir are increasing rate springs, but I know the KG/MMs are and I THINK the Espelirs might be, I simply don't know about the Eibachs. Increasing rate is better for our car, as the springs compress, the spring rate gets stiffer allowing greater cornering, you could also see this in the spring design, the coils are further apart at the top and close together at the bottom.

Know, personally, I would want to get some Koni shocks if I had the money to do so. However, eventually, I'm going to switch my springs out and go full coilover. While the stock shocks wont blow, it would be better to get Konis if you had the money...just better performance really.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Espelirs!!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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i have a set of tanabes that are new 140 shipped to you. big with all the other car companies.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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I used Eibach, great drop good ride
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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How about Tein?
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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The Eibach springs that I have on the Z are progressive (increasing rate springs) but, they are also made for a different car. I have had those springs on the car for seven years and have loved them.
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