Engine Swap
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From: LittlecountrynamedBelgium
Originally Posted by Xury,Sep 19 2006, 04:10 AM
I always entertained the idea of swapping an RSX engine/tranny into the S2000. I know anything is possible with enough money, but realistically is this idea nonsense? Has anyone ever tried or done this before?
I would love to hear what you guys have to say.
I would love to hear what you guys have to say.
Meanwhile I will enjoy the howl of 9000 rpm's
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Originally Posted by AssassinJN,Sep 19 2006, 04:45 AM
I suggest a 2.4L stroker kit on the f22 if you're looking for mid-range grunt. If you build the engine up appropriately while you're in there you can make it reliable enough to be boosted as well. A setup like this would allow you to make more than enough power, as well as give you all the mid-range you would crave.
Anyway, I was interested in the K20A2 engine b/c it was small, light, which wouldn't hurt the car in the twisties. I wasn't intending to turn the S2k into a full drag car, but a more capable car overall.
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Thanks to the serious comments as I realized if its working, don't fix it.
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From: Gie
Originally Posted by Xury,Sep 19 2006, 08:57 PM
Anyway, I was interested in the K20A2 engine b/c it was small, light, which wouldn't hurt the car in the twisties. I wasn't intending to turn the S2k into a full drag car, but a more capable car overall.
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I just found this post through the search, looking to see if anyone had any info on doing a K swap. I'm really curious why few people can see the benefits of it. There's quite a few:
1) better aftermarket support - there are tons of people working on Ks now, it really is the new B. A lot of people know a lot about these engines, and it's easy to get a lot of power out of them easily.
2) more options - it's simple to get anything from 2.0L to 2.4, there are different heads... all kinds of fun stuff.
3) lighter weight - I don't have hard data on this, but since with weight F = H > B > K, then it's safe to assume you'd be dropping at least a good 50 pounds by going K.
4) ease of installation? - it should be relatively easy to do a K swap. The engine turns the same way, and because the F and K are both based on the H, it may be possible to bolt up. If not, it should be doable with a simple adapter plate. The speedos in both cars use the new style VSS, so that should work, and the engines should be roughly the same size.
There are defnitely reasons to not do it though.
1) engine cost - stock Fs are cheap to pick up, since nobody else can use them. You're not competing with kids in Civics when you're shopping for a used engine.
2) installation cost
3) there are still a lot of options with an F - you can still build an F to the same displacements as a K using the same parts.
Don't know if I'm missing anything. Come to think of it, how about grabbing an H22 block, throwing in whatever aftermarket pistons and rods you want, and throwing a K20a head on it? That should bolt in and gives the best of both worlds.
edit: or maybe just do a K head swap on our engines? Hrm... something new to search for...
1) better aftermarket support - there are tons of people working on Ks now, it really is the new B. A lot of people know a lot about these engines, and it's easy to get a lot of power out of them easily.
2) more options - it's simple to get anything from 2.0L to 2.4, there are different heads... all kinds of fun stuff.
3) lighter weight - I don't have hard data on this, but since with weight F = H > B > K, then it's safe to assume you'd be dropping at least a good 50 pounds by going K.
4) ease of installation? - it should be relatively easy to do a K swap. The engine turns the same way, and because the F and K are both based on the H, it may be possible to bolt up. If not, it should be doable with a simple adapter plate. The speedos in both cars use the new style VSS, so that should work, and the engines should be roughly the same size.
There are defnitely reasons to not do it though.
1) engine cost - stock Fs are cheap to pick up, since nobody else can use them. You're not competing with kids in Civics when you're shopping for a used engine.
2) installation cost
3) there are still a lot of options with an F - you can still build an F to the same displacements as a K using the same parts.
Don't know if I'm missing anything. Come to think of it, how about grabbing an H22 block, throwing in whatever aftermarket pistons and rods you want, and throwing a K20a head on it? That should bolt in and gives the best of both worlds.
edit: or maybe just do a K head swap on our engines? Hrm... something new to search for...
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Originally Posted by hotmayo,Oct 24 2006, 09:58 AM
I just found this post through the search, looking to see if anyone had any info on doing a K swap. I'm really curious why few people can see the benefits of it. There's quite a few:
1) better aftermarket support - there are tons of people working on Ks now, it really is the new B. A lot of people know a lot about these engines, and it's easy to get a lot of power out of them easily.
2) more options - it's simple to get anything from 2.0L to 2.4, there are different heads... all kinds of fun stuff.
3) lighter weight - I don't have hard data on this, but since with weight F = H > B > K, then it's safe to assume you'd be dropping at least a good 50 pounds by going K.
4) ease of installation? - it should be relatively easy to do a K swap. The engine turns the same way, and because the F and K are both based on the H, it may be possible to bolt up. If not, it should be doable with a simple adapter plate. The speedos in both cars use the new style VSS, so that should work, and the engines should be roughly the same size.
There are defnitely reasons to not do it though.
1) engine cost - stock Fs are cheap to pick up, since nobody else can use them. You're not competing with kids in Civics when you're shopping for a used engine.
2) installation cost
3) there are still a lot of options with an F - you can still build an F to the same displacements as a K using the same parts.
Don't know if I'm missing anything. Come to think of it, how about grabbing an H22 block, throwing in whatever aftermarket pistons and rods you want, and throwing a K20a head on it? That should bolt in and gives the best of both worlds.
edit: or maybe just do a K head swap on our engines? Hrm... something new to search for...
1) better aftermarket support - there are tons of people working on Ks now, it really is the new B. A lot of people know a lot about these engines, and it's easy to get a lot of power out of them easily.
2) more options - it's simple to get anything from 2.0L to 2.4, there are different heads... all kinds of fun stuff.
3) lighter weight - I don't have hard data on this, but since with weight F = H > B > K, then it's safe to assume you'd be dropping at least a good 50 pounds by going K.
4) ease of installation? - it should be relatively easy to do a K swap. The engine turns the same way, and because the F and K are both based on the H, it may be possible to bolt up. If not, it should be doable with a simple adapter plate. The speedos in both cars use the new style VSS, so that should work, and the engines should be roughly the same size.
There are defnitely reasons to not do it though.
1) engine cost - stock Fs are cheap to pick up, since nobody else can use them. You're not competing with kids in Civics when you're shopping for a used engine.
2) installation cost
3) there are still a lot of options with an F - you can still build an F to the same displacements as a K using the same parts.
Don't know if I'm missing anything. Come to think of it, how about grabbing an H22 block, throwing in whatever aftermarket pistons and rods you want, and throwing a K20a head on it? That should bolt in and gives the best of both worlds.
edit: or maybe just do a K head swap on our engines? Hrm... something new to search for...
2. Again, there are tons of variants of the K and the K head now.
3. Since when does F = H. These two engines are completely different animals. It's never safe to assume anything. Where did you pull 50 pounds out of? I know...
4. How "should" it be a relatively easy swap? You don't know enough about either motor to make that generalization.
Why would you perform a K head swap on the F series engine? (Even if it were possible). The F head is one of the highest flowing on the market...
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