Fish tailing?
Originally Posted by Bboy AJ,Aug 16 2005, 04:44 PM
I read that post on another message board on a "What do you drive?" topic. My question is if anyone has had any similar situations or if they've heard stories akin to this one.
Worries me.
Worries me.
Originally Posted by Helios8,Aug 16 2005, 05:59 PM
His friend is an idiot. He probably is too.
Anytime you just lose it while simply "overtaking someone," part of the story is missing. That part is often:
-going around a curve too fast
-cold, worn, or mismatched tires
-wet road
-abrupt driver input
It's RWD, but it's still just a car. The thing about the S2000 is it's not going to do anything you don't tell it to, yet it will do anything you do tell it to. Just don't tell the car to do anything stupid, and you'll be ok.
Oh yeah, and if you want to learn the limits of the car (not everyone does), do it at a track, not on the street.
there is not enough power in the S to lose control "overtaking someone". If you are driving an SL65, then yes, you could lose control slamming on the throttle.
However, the most treacherous part of driving the S close to the limits is the quick weight transfer, and attempting to drive it in rain. The car is very shifty mid-corner, and if you're going in too hot, and try to compensate, it's very easy to lose control. However, you're probably not going to spin out from slamming the throttle coming out of a corner, unless you're in 1st gear at Vtec rpm.
PLEASE go to a school like Skip Barber, it is by far the best one-two day school for learning the basics of weight transfer, and oversteer and understeer. It is expensive, but it is well worth it. I went when I was 16, and again when I was 18, and I have avoided numerous accidents and near losses of control because of what I learned.
However, the most treacherous part of driving the S close to the limits is the quick weight transfer, and attempting to drive it in rain. The car is very shifty mid-corner, and if you're going in too hot, and try to compensate, it's very easy to lose control. However, you're probably not going to spin out from slamming the throttle coming out of a corner, unless you're in 1st gear at Vtec rpm.
PLEASE go to a school like Skip Barber, it is by far the best one-two day school for learning the basics of weight transfer, and oversteer and understeer. It is expensive, but it is well worth it. I went when I was 16, and again when I was 18, and I have avoided numerous accidents and near losses of control because of what I learned.
"Fishtailing" in ANY car is directly proportional to the operation of the car's controls. This operation is directly proportional to the ability of the driver's brain to interpret the driving conditions at the time and his brain's ability to convey messages to the parts of the body that manipulate those controls. This is NOT a function of the car nor is it a function of the driving conditions at the time.
(Yeah, yeah, some smartass will come along and say, "What about black ice?" All drivers should be aware of the environmental conditions that create black ice and adjust for it accordingly. The lack of this realization is directly attributed to the driver and NOT to the black ice itself. A simple counter measure to this sort of driving condition is to SLOW DOWN and not make any sudden moves.)
ps. But if it makes you feel warm and cuddly to say it's the CAR'S fault, then that is your perogative.
(Yeah, yeah, some smartass will come along and say, "What about black ice?" All drivers should be aware of the environmental conditions that create black ice and adjust for it accordingly. The lack of this realization is directly attributed to the driver and NOT to the black ice itself. A simple counter measure to this sort of driving condition is to SLOW DOWN and not make any sudden moves.)
ps. But if it makes you feel warm and cuddly to say it's the CAR'S fault, then that is your perogative.
Like everyone said, if you don't do something stupid, you'll stay outta trouble. The car does have a lot of power and if you mash the gas in a turn, the back will come out.
I swear everyone should learn how to ride a motorcycle before they drive. It helps a lot in awareness and power control and just being smooth on brakes and throttle. And you know if you screw up, it's your ass!
I swear everyone should learn how to ride a motorcycle before they drive. It helps a lot in awareness and power control and just being smooth on brakes and throttle. And you know if you screw up, it's your ass!
Originally Posted by littlerocket777,Aug 17 2005, 04:38 PM
I swear everyone should learn how to ride a motorcycle before they drive. It helps a lot in awareness and power control and just being smooth on brakes and throttle. And you know if you screw up, it's your ass!



