Frame Damage
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From: Milford, MA
Frame Damage
I was close to buying this with 34k miles on it for $16.5k. I ran an Autocheck report, and it came up clean. Now I see frame damage on the carfax report:
The story of this 2001 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP11491T002853)
according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
* This convertible has had 3 owners and was owned in New York and
Massachusetts. The first title for this convertible was reported
to CARFAX by a New York DMV in 2001.
* It was at a collision repair facility after an accident or other
incident and frame damage was reported. Go to framefacts.com for
information about frame damage.
* It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major
accident, fire or flood.
* It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds
Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
* It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 7,457 miles per
year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The
last odometer reading, reported on 09/10/2004, was 25,599 miles.
* It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
* Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an
extended warranty with your dealer.
* Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and
a glossary of terms.
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CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
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** Good News - Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer
problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) for this 2001 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP11491T002853).
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV
and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
You MUST REGISTER to activate this free guarantee!
http://www.carfax.com/guarantee/Warr...NNDEAN@AOL.COM
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Sect.# Section Name Section Results
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1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check NO Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators Accident Indicator Found
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check NO Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check NO Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK
The story of this 2001 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP11491T002853)
according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
* This convertible has had 3 owners and was owned in New York and
Massachusetts. The first title for this convertible was reported
to CARFAX by a New York DMV in 2001.
* It was at a collision repair facility after an accident or other
incident and frame damage was reported. Go to framefacts.com for
information about frame damage.
* It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major
accident, fire or flood.
* It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds
Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
* It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 7,457 miles per
year, which is lower than the industry average of 15,000. The
last odometer reading, reported on 09/10/2004, was 25,599 miles.
* It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
* Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an
extended warranty with your dealer.
* Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and
a glossary of terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Good News - Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer
problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) for this 2001 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP11491T002853).
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV
and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
You MUST REGISTER to activate this free guarantee!
http://www.carfax.com/guarantee/Warr...NNDEAN@AOL.COM
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Sect.# Section Name Section Results
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1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check NO Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators Accident Indicator Found
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check NO Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check NO Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK
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Did the mechanic specifically look for evidence of frame damage and say there was nothing wrong?
Its a tough call, imo. Frame damage is nothing to mess with, but if your mechanic thinks its clean (and you trust him with completely) maybe its all right.
Is this a chance you are willing to take?
Its a tough call, imo. Frame damage is nothing to mess with, but if your mechanic thinks its clean (and you trust him with completely) maybe its all right.
Is this a chance you are willing to take?
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From: Jacksonville, FL
Sounds like it was involved in some sort of accident which was not reported to the police. It could've just been that one of the owners wrecked it himself with no one else involved, and was able to drive it away.
At any rate, with frame damage reported and 3 previous owners I would say "keep looking". Do what you feel is right though. If you have a trusted mechanic give you the OK, and you feel good about it then give it a shot.
Craig
At any rate, with frame damage reported and 3 previous owners I would say "keep looking". Do what you feel is right though. If you have a trusted mechanic give you the OK, and you feel good about it then give it a shot.
Craig
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From: Milford, MA
The mechanic can be trusted. We didn't specifically look for frame damage. I am bringing it to a trusted body shop on Sat. morning. If he's not willing to lower price, I'm also looking at a '00 with 24k miles, one owner, claims he doesn't drive it in the rain or snow, for $19k.
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What about the car being sold there? Its $16.5k from a known S2000 member ... Or are we talking about the same car?
What about the car being sold there? Its $16.5k from a known S2000 member ... Or are we talking about the same car?
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From: Milford, MA
No, not that car.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?t...1701&aff=boston
The car in your link has too many miles, and I will not buy black again.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?t...1701&aff=boston
The car in your link has too many miles, and I will not buy black again.
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From: Milford, MA
What do people think about this car for $19k?
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?t...1701&aff=boston
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...sp=y&cardist=24
The story of this 2000 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP1141YT002632)
according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
* This convertible has had 1 owner in Massachusetts. The first
title for this convertible was reported to CARFAX by a
Massachusetts DMV in 2000.
* It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
* It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major
accident, fire or flood.
* It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds
Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
* It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. The last odometer reading, reported on
01/14/2000, was 18 miles.
* It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
* Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an
extended warranty with your dealer.
* Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and
a glossary of terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Good News - Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer
problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) for this 2000 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP1141YT002632).
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV
and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
You MUST REGISTER to activate this free guarantee!
http://www.carfax.com/guarantee/Warr...NNDEAN@AOL.COM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sect.# Section Name Section Results
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check NO Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators NO Accident Indicator Found
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check NO Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check NO Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?t...1701&aff=boston
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_...sp=y&cardist=24
The story of this 2000 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP1141YT002632)
according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
* This convertible has had 1 owner in Massachusetts. The first
title for this convertible was reported to CARFAX by a
Massachusetts DMV in 2000.
* It has had no minor or moderate accidents reported to CARFAX.
* It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major
accident, fire or flood.
* It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds
Mechanical Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
* It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. The last odometer reading, reported on
01/14/2000, was 18 miles.
* It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
* Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an
extended warranty with your dealer.
* Go to the Detailed Vehicle History for the complete history and
a glossary of terms.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CARFAX VEHICLE HISTORY REPORT SUMMARY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Good News - Vehicle qualifies for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee!
No severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer
problems or lemon history) were ever reported by a Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) for this 2000 HONDA S2000 (JHMAP1141YT002632).
If you find that any of these severe problems were reported by a DMV
and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back.
You MUST REGISTER to activate this free guarantee!
http://www.carfax.com/guarantee/Warr...NNDEAN@AOL.COM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sect.# Section Name Section Results
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check NO Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Other Accident Indicators NO Accident Indicator Found
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check NO Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check NO Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK
