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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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Found this E-Mail exchange on an NSX site.

Does this seem ligit?


With all the talk off fraudulent checks and buyers I would like to seek all of your advice as to whether I am being fooled or not. I have been emailing a guy overseas for 3 months now and we have agreed on a price. He was supposed to send me a cashiers check immediately but always had excuses for not doing it. Finally 2 days ago I received a registered letter from France with a cashiers check from Bank One in Illinois for the full amount plus an additional $10,000 for shipping. I emailed the buyer and told him the bank said it would take nine days for the check to clear. Not to my surprise, I received an email from him today asking for $5,000 immediately for medical purposes. Here is the email, tell me if I am being frauded, I will certainly not give him any money until the check clears, and I will only give him the remainder of the shipping costs, also he is asking me to do something I have no idea what he is talking about concerning buying another car for him and shipping it to him, I just dont understand what this guy is thinking. Here is the email.

Goodday

How is business and family ? l am very grateful that you have received you payment,my client called me to comfirm if you have received your payment of which l told him and explain the situation of things.My wife got an accident yesternight ,a client of my was owning me money,l ask my wife to go and collect the money,so l can export some of my goods, so on her way going she had an accident and was seriouly injured and she was admitted at the hospital and l have used the money with me for a business and am not boyant for now, So please l want you to send me $5,000USD from your account to enable me pay her hospital bills. when the money clear from the bank you will deduct out of the money you will send for the shipping arrangment,hence l want you to select me a clean cool car and l have another client who need a Camry 2002 of which the payment will be ready immediately you get it and send the pictures of the car and the last asking price ?.

Please send the money via WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANFER
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Name: Mr. Olusola Ajao David
Street Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Country :- REPUBLIC OF BENIN, WEST AFRICA.
Amount : $5,000USD
COUNTRY ZIP code :- ( BJCT) REPUBLIC OF BENIN WEST AFRICA .
Send me the WESTERN UNION CONTROL AND TEST QUESTION AND ANSWER and the name you used to send the money.l hope to hear from you soonest and have a wonderful day !!!

Thanks and God Bless !
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Sounds like one of those fraud scams from the guys in Africa to me. Be very, very careful with this.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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DO NOT give them ANY money until their check has cleared. I've heard / read a number of stories where people have received checks like you, cashed them, turned over purchased items and refunded extra money only to find out the original check (although looking legitimate) was phony.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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Also, who needs monet to pay medical bills immediately anyway? If he can't wait until funds clear then he is most likely trying to defraud you!
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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Legit!??!?? Are you serious?

Try the following link for some good examples of how to have fun with these scam artist...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/16/204210
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Definitely not legit.

It seems scams like these are popping up all over now.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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This is not legit. It may clear your account in 9 days but it wont clear their account for another 30 days. By then they will determine that there is no $$ and pull it back from you. your car will already be in their hands and you will be out the $$ + $5K that you paid for her medical. Let him know that you have been in touch with your lawyer and he advises you to wait til it clears his account before finishing the transaction. You will also not front him the $$ either.

Best of luck.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!!!!!

I did, I received an Internet Lead for a guy from South Africa wanting to purchase 3 vehicles, we agreed on prices and he sent me a check from a local U.S. company for a little over $75k. I was supposed to wait till the check cleared and ship the cars and the reminder of the cash, about $14k, back to him. After 2 weeks the check had cleared and we started the process of shipping the vehicles to South Africa. He arranged shipping on his own. The month ended and I got paid commision on all three sales to a total of almost $4k As the next months rolled in, we found out from the company which the check was drawn from that the person that signed the check was NOT an authorized agent for the company and it was FRAUD!!!!! To make a long story short, I ended having to pay back ALL the commisions earned on the sale It was a pretty bad last Christmas because of it. The worst part was that if we had caught the FRAUD after the vehicles had been shipped, Insurance would had covered it and I would had been able to keep my commision but since we caught it just before the cars where shipped I was 100% totally SCREWED!!!


I say AGAIN, DO NOT FALL FOR THIS!!!! I actually spoke to the perp on the phone all the way from South Africa and I wish there was any way I could find the A$$HOLE, I would beat the living $HIT out of him for all the money he made me loose...

Oh well...

LIVE & LEARN!!!

Regards...

BA...
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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you are a wiseman for asking this question before taking an action.

Wait. You've got nothing to lose.
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Old Nov 16, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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Really I would have had him send another check from a differen't company. Maybe you could get the process done in less time next time and then keep the money. As long as you don't loose anything your started out with I don't see the harm. I understand it must feel like shit to make all that money and then lose it though.
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