Got an AP2 - Where's my oversteer?
Alright,
Had an '02 AP1 a couple of years ago and LOVED it, loved the fact I could step the rear out just about everywhere and it was so easy to keep it in line and composed..
Now I bought an '04 AP2 and no matter what I do I can't get it oversteer as well as my AP1, if I carry in a lot of speed and romp on it it gives me a little slide but nothing like my AP1..
I do like the nicer interior / dash etc.. But I definitely miss the tail happiness of the AP1.. Currently I'm on Tein flex and toyos..
Anything simple I can do to bring back the fun?
Thanks,
Tawheed
Had an '02 AP1 a couple of years ago and LOVED it, loved the fact I could step the rear out just about everywhere and it was so easy to keep it in line and composed..
Now I bought an '04 AP2 and no matter what I do I can't get it oversteer as well as my AP1, if I carry in a lot of speed and romp on it it gives me a little slide but nothing like my AP1..
I do like the nicer interior / dash etc.. But I definitely miss the tail happiness of the AP1.. Currently I'm on Tein flex and toyos..
Anything simple I can do to bring back the fun?
Thanks,
Tawheed
Originally Posted by slickback,Jul 21 2009, 08:28 PM
also correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure ap2 s2ks have traction control and ap1's dont so that could be part of it
Don't want to go AP1 springs - that'd look awful..
Stuff that would cost real money:
- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.
- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.
Easy stuff:
- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)
- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster
Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?
- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.
- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.
Easy stuff:
- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)
- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster
Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?
Originally Posted by Swift GT,Jul 21 2009, 09:10 PM
Stuff that would cost real money:
- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.
- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.
Easy stuff:
- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)
- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster
Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?
- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.
- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.
Easy stuff:
- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)
- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster
Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?

I don't think it's a matter of needing it as much as wanting it
It's part of the RWD experience





