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Got an AP2 - Where's my oversteer?

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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Alright,

Had an '02 AP1 a couple of years ago and LOVED it, loved the fact I could step the rear out just about everywhere and it was so easy to keep it in line and composed..

Now I bought an '04 AP2 and no matter what I do I can't get it oversteer as well as my AP1, if I carry in a lot of speed and romp on it it gives me a little slide but nothing like my AP1..

I do like the nicer interior / dash etc.. But I definitely miss the tail happiness of the AP1.. Currently I'm on Tein flex and toyos..

Anything simple I can do to bring back the fun?

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Tawheed
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Put some 225/40/17s in the back along with some ap1 springs and you'll get the desired amount of oversteer.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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also correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure ap2 s2ks have traction control and ap1's dont so that could be part of it
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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enjoy it the way it is because if you get it loose, its too late
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by slickback,Jul 21 2009, 08:28 PM
also correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure ap2 s2ks have traction control and ap1's dont so that could be part of it
Mine is an '04 - no traction control..

Don't want to go AP1 springs - that'd look awful..
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Stuff that would cost real money:

- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.

- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.


Easy stuff:

- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)

- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster



Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Swift GT,Jul 21 2009, 09:10 PM
Stuff that would cost real money:

- Getting some springs with stiffer rear spring rates or coilovers where you can harden up the rear and soften the front dampers.

- Getting wider front tires, which will make turn in better but might not make losing rear end grip easier. Getting skinnier rears would definitely work if you are willing to do that.


Easy stuff:

- Raising rear tire pressure a few pounds (not a particularly good idea for the street but it would help a bit if you really want oversteer)

- Getting an alignment with some front toe-out would help you turn-in more quickly and maybe get the back to come out faster



Do you really need that much oversteer on the street though?
Sweet..

I don't think it's a matter of needing it as much as wanting it It's part of the RWD experience
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Oh believe me when i say an AP2's rear will snap on you when you least expect it. That's because you wont expect it! Has happened to me in the rain and dry.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Have you tried to oversteer your AP2 during rain??? Because it does have similar characteristic as AP1 on wet surface, traction control off, of course although not as happy as AP1.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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wider front tires will do the trick probably cheapest option
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