hey im interested in getting some headers mostly to improve how my car sounds.

whats the differnce between 4-1 headers, 4-2-1 one piece headers, 4-2-1 two piece headers

 

it's header, we only have one

 

Come on Dave...that really wasn't helpful! Share some of your knowledge with the fellow s2k member.

 

I don't think he was refering to the cars header, but the different types of headers. Like saying how many different shaped noses do people have? Not that anybody has more than one nose....

 

share your KNOWLEdGE PPL!!! please!!!

 

You want to improve the sound with a header change? The sound will change significantly if you change the exhaust, but I'm sure you know that...

If you are ONLY looking to change the sound, why not try to remove the airbox lid and see if you like that sound?

 

okay first of all..if you want ONLY the sound i think you need not change the headers as one of our fellow friend here says...he is right u know?

I think you need to change the exhaust if you are looking for ONLY the sound
and try to change the air filter too...

Now on the other hand...if you want sound (Nice sound) and power...
do change the following:
ARC INTAKE CHAMBER
ARC AIR FILTER
Toda header 4-2-1
Amuse catback system exhaust.

Now...if you do that you will have melody to your ears and power too...

 

i remember reading when I was into fixing up my accord(years ago) that 4-1 headers caused some loss in low end torque as compared to the 4-2-1 in NA cars.

I think for the 4cyl NA motor 4-2-1 is best.

 

The best bang for the buck is Rick's Header ( http://www.ricks2k.com/ ). It essentially produces the same gains as a Mugen header, at half the cost. The design is very similar to Mugen's header. It has brackets for the stock heat shields as well.

There are lighter headers out there. Rick's shaves ~10 lbs. The lightest one saves ~12lbs. The Toda Header is also a great design. It cost around $300 more than Rick's.

 

toda headers give you mid to top power...
you will feel a lot of change in rpm3 -9....a lot lighter...and more power