Been playing around with heel-toe this past week. Getting the hang of it, but I'm curious how fast you guys let the clutch out when you heel toe. When I rev-match I tend to rev a bit more and let the clutch out slower, but I've always figured that heel toe downshifting should be done pretty fast so the quicker you let off the clutch, the quicker you can perform the next downshift. Am I right in thinking this?

 

if you rev match to the most ideal rpm, u can let go pretty darn fast and it should catch without any jerking. just takes time getting used to.

 

yes, let the clutch out as quick as possible; why would you not want the gear to engage any slower than need be.

 

If I'm just dawdling along, I do it slow. If I'm on the track and hard on the brakes on corner entry I do it fast. I find it much easier to H&T on the track than I do driving around town.

 

When I heel-toe, I think to myself "both in - both out". As far as timing goes, the gas and clutch go in at the same time and are released at the same time. Of course, in slow motion it will be clutch in - gas in - gas out - clutch out

 

You need to get your rev-match down so you can let it out quick. But if you're starting a turn you dont want to jerk your car and throw the weight off... so careful to get it down really well before you do it quickly coming into turns.

If you want to get the pedal modulation down for your brake/throttle you might want to try this: Just driving around town, when coming to a stop jsut drop it in neutral and practice the roll on your foot until you're smooth on both pedals with your one foot.

 

In track conditions it is much easier than on the street..anytime the engine is already in higher rpms it will just naturally happen faster so leting the clutch out quickly is natural. On lower rpm street HT you have more time to make sure u position everything before hand and just think about what you are doing when the tim comes. of course practice makes perfect, but alot of it is the feel of everything coming together

 

It's more important (on a track IMO) to make sure the down shifts are smooth rather than fast until you can do both together. You have to start off slowly and build up a rhythm. Unsettling this car under hard braking into a corner is not a good idea. Take it slow and get accustomed to smoothly letting out the clutch. A passenger is not supposed to know when the engagement happened during the down shifts. Until you master it, don't brake so late that you are forced to do it all in a rush.

 

One draw back of doing things at low speeds is that you probably don't need to jam the brakes in as hard as you would on the track/during spirited driving.

The pedals are easier to heel-toe if you hit the brakes harder, because the brake and the gas pedals are at much more ideal levels. Specifically, when braking not-so-hard, your brake pedal is much "higher" than the gas pedal, making it a little odd for the heel to step on the gas pedal ...

Or maybe this is just because I have small feet?

 

When I heel toe I think that I let the clutch out as fast as I give it gas if that makes any sense to you. BTW, I have been driving many different cars lately and the S2000 is definitely one of the easiest cars to heel toe in. It seems like in other cars you need to use the side of your foot and I can't get use to that.