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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ep3minivan,Nov 8 2005, 06:21 PM
I think that those tools only roll the fenders under. I know that there are some guys out in SoCal that have done this.
This tool bends the inner lip of the fender up against itself. I would expect that with enough pressure you could use it to provide a minor flare as well.

Those track cars seem to have a very straight forward flare. The lip is just bent outward to provide more clearance for a wider wheel. If you are experiencing rubbing in the front make sure that it's not contact with your fender liner as opposed to the fender itself. There is a small square piece of plastic that is the source of most audible rubbing in the front. If you are just rubbing your fender liner then you may beable to modify or remove it and fix most of your problems. If you run a flared fender you will have to remove your fender liner anyway.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportSport,Nov 9 2005, 08:49 AM
This tool bends the inner lip of the fender up against itself. I would expect that with enough pressure you could use it to provide a minor flare as well.

Those track cars seem to have a very straight forward flare. The lip is just bent outward to provide more clearance for a wider wheel. If you are experiencing rubbing in the front make sure that it's not contact with your fender liner as opposed to the fender itself. There is a small square piece of plastic that is the source of most audible rubbing in the front. If you are just rubbing your fender liner then you may beable to modify or remove it and fix most of your problems. If you run a flared fender you will have to remove your fender liner anyway.
Well, I have had more problems than just rubbing the fender liner. In fact, my fender is going into the shop to get straightened back out from a stupid Illinois road. Also, I am looking to go to a nonstaggered setup running 17x9s all around. So there are really only two options, flared fenders or wide fenders. I am thinking about Varis fenders, but if I can do it myself then I really so no reason to buy wide fenders.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Sorry....rolling outward is probably the dumbest thing Ive ever seen. (for a street car) Get tires that are the right size.

My wheels are 8" wide in the front, and I dont rub. My rears are 9.5" and I dont rub.

If you think you need more tire than that on a 240hp car, you are sadly mistaken.

Like I said, the fronts of S2000s, RSXs, Civics, and many Hondas, have nothing to roll. Rolling OUTWARDS is not rolling fenders.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Nov 9 2005, 11:35 AM
Sorry....rolling outward is probably the dumbest thing Ive ever seen. (for a street car) Get tires that are the right size.

My wheels are 8" wide in the front, and I dont rub. My rears are 9.5" and I dont rub.

If you think you need more tire than that on a 240hp car, you are sadly mistaken.

Like I said, the fronts of S2000s, RSXs, Civics, and many Hondas, have nothing to roll. Rolling OUTWARDS is not rolling fenders.
You forgot IMO on that

If 'Flaring the Fender' gets rid of wheel to fender contact them I'm all for it. And who says if you want to run wider wheels and tires your dumb for trying? Thats really close minded.

I can see where you're comming from for on a street car, yes 9.5 and 8 are fine, but for ppl that hit the tracks and like to have a little more fun then the average joe, we want to run something a little wider.

My thinking might be, 'sadly mistaken' but to me, more tire equals more traction.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Nov 9 2005, 11:35 AM

Like I said, the fronts of S2000s, RSXs, Civics, and many Hondas, have nothing to roll. Rolling OUTWARDS is not rolling fenders.
You can roll the front fenders on all those cars.... There is a lip that the splash gaurds or whatever you want to call them mount. That small inside lip is what everybody rubs on for the most part and what they want to roll.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,Nov 9 2005, 11:35 AM
Sorry....rolling outward is probably the dumbest thing Ive ever seen. (for a street car) Get tires that are the right size.

My wheels are 8" wide in the front, and I dont rub. My rears are 9.5" and I dont rub.

If you think you need more tire than that on a 240hp car, you are sadly mistaken.

Like I said, the fronts of S2000s, RSXs, Civics, and many Hondas, have nothing to roll. Rolling OUTWARDS is not rolling fenders.
I know it is not rolling. It is flaring. But you can roll and flare as shown with the tool pictured above.

I am anticipating to hit the track next year. A nonstaggered setup will help considerably with understeer and a larger contact patch than a nonstaggered setup. The tire is not for straight line traction. If it was not a superior setup on the track then why would J's, ASM, Amuse, Top Secret, etc. etc. all run it?

I am not asking you to mod your car this way, so lets please try to stay at the topic at hand
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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You should call a local body shop, a lot shops have tools for rolling.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ep3minivan,Nov 9 2005, 12:48 PM
I am anticipating to hit the track next year. A nonstaggered setup will help considerably with understeer and a larger contact patch than a nonstaggered setup. The tire is not for straight line traction.

If it was not a superior setup on the track then why would J's, ASM, Amuse, Top Secret, etc. etc. all run it?
I highly doubt that understeer is going to be an issue for you. I expect that there are a good number of suspension components that you are lacking before the dynamics of the car allow for a significant amount of understeer. One of which being a full cage, pushing through the firewall to the front towers.

All of these non-staggered wheel setups are running staggered tire sizes so it's not truely staggered.

What lower front sway bar are you running?

Either way you can run 17x9 (staggered tires) without taking your liners out if your suspension is stiff enough and your camber is negative enough.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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BUMP!!!
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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any info guys?
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