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View Poll Results: When do you have enough horsepower?
You can never have enough.
28.69%
Enough to "beat" 99% of cars encountered daily.
28.69%
Enough to "beat" 95% of cars encountered daily (1:20).
23.77%
Enough to keep pace with a decent sports sedan.
9.84%
Enough to not be embarrassed by a Camry.
3.28%
I don't care at all. A stock miata would suit me fine.
5.74%
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How much is enough horsepower?

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CKit,Nov 24 2006, 12:34 PM
Cars have evolved to be faster, stop quicker, and be safer.
Absolutely beat me to it. With cars like the sky redline/soltice gxp, cobalt ss, etc hitting the market the s2k is no longer in its prime competing sector. Though the handlind aspect is still great, stock power is lacking compared to the cars the s was originally made to compete with.

On a side note, anyone seen the new tt-s? 280hp; 350hp for the tt-rs!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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it is, in a way, a testament to one's character strength to see how much they value function over appearances. if using the apple newton and big cell phone were more practical than the modern versions, a mature man would do so instead of trying to keep up with appearances. the S2000 to me will be a test for people i meet in the future. if they are like, how can you drive and like that old thing while 1000 hp is everywhere? i'll be able to sum up their personality pretty quick and laugh them off. on the other hand, the person who says "now THAT is a sports car without the nonesense of today's filler" me and them are going to be friends for awhile.

unfortunately, the extreme makeover examples have truth to them. but the bottomline in that is, do you really want people who judge strongly based on those things to be major parts of your life? while it might be nice for the short term, i'll take a pass. it's not to say try to look like crap, but do what you feel comfortable with. i personally don't try to dress well. it's a waste of time and energy imo. be a man, the man you are, not the man you think people want you to be.

can you tell im at work, not so much bored, but at least checking the board?
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dyhppy,Nov 24 2006, 01:01 PM
it is, in a way, a testament to one's character strength to see how much they value function over appearances. if using the apple newton and big cell phone were more practical than the modern versions, a mature man would do so instead of trying to keep up with appearances. the S2000 to me will be a test for people i meet in the future. if they are like, how can you drive and like that old thing while 1000 hp is everywhere? i'll be able to sum up their personality pretty quick and laugh them off. on the other hand, the person who says "now THAT is a sports car without the nonesense of today's filler" me and them are going to be friends for awhile.
True, if those older items remained more practical than newer then it would be smarter to use them. This is to say the s2k will remain more 'practical' than newer cars if you feel it is in no need of an upgrade. With mid-20k cars creeping into the market with growing power/handling dynamics how can you say the s2000 will remain the "most practical" Furthermore you say its a testament to ones maturaty to want a more modern version of somehting regardless of function. My question is this then - how can judging one based on their opinion of the s2k be mature?

Regardless, your example of 1000hp cars while the s2k is much like comparing a '65 porsche to a current day sports car. The difference is that the s2000 is still on the market. Sure, more horsepower wouldn't necessarily make it a better car per se, simply more competitive.

What defines enough is in the eye of the beholder...
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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sorry ckit, as i often flood your threads, but im being asked a question.

i said the opposite of what you think. a mature person would NOT value newness over function. the s2000 will serve as a test because meeting someone who values newness above all else is obviously underdeveloped.

im not certain the S will remain the most practical, but as things as going, cars are getting for sophisticated and more removed from the driving experienced. cars like the s2k are not really being made anymore and the trend doesn't seem interested in changing. i predict the S will be a usable real world gem in an eventual society that mostly has cars that drive themselves. by that time, we might not be able to find gas to power it, though.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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I've always wanted a car that could dip into the 12's.

why? well because when I was growing up and in love with cars, all the fast cars ran 12's and that would still be fine by me today and into the future eventhough most of racers don't think that's fast.

I couldn't imagine wanting or needing more that 500hp, i would be very happy with 300-400.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dyhppy,Nov 24 2006, 02:16 PM
sorry ckit, as i often flood your threads, but im being asked a question.

i said the opposite of what you think. a mature person would NOT value newness over function. the s2000 will serve as a test because meeting someone who values newness above all else is obviously underdeveloped.

im not certain the S will remain the most practical, but as things as going, cars are getting for sophisticated and more removed from the driving experienced. cars like the s2k are not really being made anymore and the trend doesn't seem interested in changing. i predict the S will be a usable real world gem in an eventual society that mostly has cars that drive themselves. by that time, we might not be able to find gas to power it, though.
Sorry to whoever started this topic, I do not wish to make a bad impression at the forums, this'll be my last post in this topic

Anyways, you did not say the opposite of what I think. (I never once stated a mature individual would value newness>practicallity nor do i think that) I was merely stating that, to keep up with other future models/cars and to stay with the intended market, the s2k would need a power upgrade.

In my opinion claiming that you'll "be able to sum up their personality pretty quick and laugh them off." simply because of one's opinion on a car's power is, "above all else, obviously underdeveloped"
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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explain why i am wrong in detail if you please. or just pm me if you dont want to take the thread off on a tangent.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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CKit,

I agree that you have a valid point. As with almost everything in life, you have to find a balance. On the one hand there are the horsepower wars and keeping up with the jones and on the other hand you have making financially sensible decisions.

The best way, IMO, to find a balance is by setting priorities and rules in your life. Each person has to make that decision for themselves. As for my, having a nice sports car is something that's important, but there are more important things, like investing. I also made a rule that when it comes to buying cars, I will buy when they're about 5 years old, and sell them when they're about 10 years old. I bought my S2000 this February when the car was 5 years old, and I'm planning on keeping it until 2011, assuming that I will be financially stable and nothing will happen to the car. Then I will probably be looking at replacing it with a used Elise or something similar. By doing so, I feel that I can still keep up with the times as well as be able to keep my priorities.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dyhppy,Nov 24 2006, 06:17 PM
explain why i am wrong in detail if you please. or just pm me if you dont want to take the thread off on a tangent.
I'm kind of interested in reading about it, so please post it here.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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After about a year at 300whp i'm thinking about upgrading to a smaller pulley to get about 340whp.I don't think i'll ever wanna get past 400whp.




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