I bought an electric supercharger!
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I always wondered about a turbo driven by a two stroke motor. And I mean a seperate two stroke that ran on its own. You would have no exhaust restiction and you wouldnt have to worry about the efficiency so much because the two stroke uses its own fuel.
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,May 3 2005, 09:47 PM
Wisconsin - I gotta say, some of your statements are pretty sweeping and general. You seem to decide on your own premises then argue them to death. It's the premises that are erroneous, not the argument.
Fact is if Wilbur and Orville had listened to all the naysayers we wouldn't be flying today. That doesn't suggest that anything you buy on ebay is good, just that a product being sold on ebay isn't necessarily bad.
A lot of poo-pooed ideas are re-thought and re-aplied and end up being useful to some extent. Like the idea of using your air conditioner to cool intake air. The air conditioner uses way more power than it can deliver in terms of cool air. It is extremely inefficient. But Ford have used it by storing an amount of air and releasing it suddenly during acceleration (very similar to this idea of storing electrical energy and releasing it in a burst). I'm not sure how advantageous this idea of Ford's is but then their whole assembly line thing in the 20's was a bit of hit so they can't all be bad.
Fact is, two people of identical beliefs can find reason to argue if they try hard enough (look at the Vatican Council for example). Doesn't mean it's worthwhile exercise however. The only true way to gain from an argument is to try and see it from the others point of view and see where the difference and merit is. You won't win many arguments that way but you'll win a lot more friends.
Fact is if Wilbur and Orville had listened to all the naysayers we wouldn't be flying today. That doesn't suggest that anything you buy on ebay is good, just that a product being sold on ebay isn't necessarily bad.
A lot of poo-pooed ideas are re-thought and re-aplied and end up being useful to some extent. Like the idea of using your air conditioner to cool intake air. The air conditioner uses way more power than it can deliver in terms of cool air. It is extremely inefficient. But Ford have used it by storing an amount of air and releasing it suddenly during acceleration (very similar to this idea of storing electrical energy and releasing it in a burst). I'm not sure how advantageous this idea of Ford's is but then their whole assembly line thing in the 20's was a bit of hit so they can't all be bad.
Fact is, two people of identical beliefs can find reason to argue if they try hard enough (look at the Vatican Council for example). Doesn't mean it's worthwhile exercise however. The only true way to gain from an argument is to try and see it from the others point of view and see where the difference and merit is. You won't win many arguments that way but you'll win a lot more friends.
I admit I was too broad in my original statements.
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Originally Posted by Caffeinated21,May 3 2005, 10:05 PM
WisconsinS2K, these are your words, instead of arguing about how useless these EBAY motors are (duh, we all know that) why don't you trying to explain away this quote, which is clearly wrong on multiple counts, as others have shown earlier in this thread.
i've already laid out what i was defining in my original posts. obviously, as stated, i was too broad in my original posts, and i apologize for being so general. but i didn't think someone was going to argue semantics with me on what i was defining as "fan" vs an impeller and "fan" in a compressor housing.
i mean christ, if we want to argue semantics, why stop there? you ask me for a kleenex, i guess i'd have to go to the store to get them since all i have are puffs facial tissues. or maybe if you ask if i have a xerox machine i'll have to point you elsewhere because i only have a canon copy machine.
get my point? i figured in the context of this thread, people would understand that the types of "fans" i was referring to was the ebay type useless crap.
what's next... i'm going to walk into a honda dealer, ask to buy an S2 and they'll try to sell me a Fuji Finepix S2 camera?
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Originally Posted by Mighty,May 4 2005, 02:11 PM
I always wondered about a turbo driven by a two stroke motor.
Or better still just connecting the compressor to the crank.
Of course if you could utilise th wasted energy out the exhaust pipe you would be even better off.
See where this is going!
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I agree with the 'good idea, bad execution', in theory a supercharger powered by an electric motor would be better than a turbo or crank-driven supercharger, the only problem being powering the thing to generate enough boost. Just think:
- Electric motors hit peak torque almost instantly, so little if any lag.
- Or you could have it running boost permanently - instant power.
- No performance hit like with SCs.
- Control boost pressure using the motor (just vary the rpm).
All you need is a magic power supply
IMHO
- Electric motors hit peak torque almost instantly, so little if any lag.
- Or you could have it running boost permanently - instant power.
- No performance hit like with SCs.
- Control boost pressure using the motor (just vary the rpm).
All you need is a magic power supply
IMHO
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