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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Jakup is right. I have a friend here, FormulaRedline, who drives his S daily, got 140,000 miles on it and he runs snow tires when it snows everytime with no problems. Tires really do make a the differance along with gentle inputs on all the controls.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipAngle79,Jan 10 2007, 10:23 PM
Jakup is right. I have a friend here, FormulaRedline, who drives his S daily, got 140,000 miles on it and he runs snow tires when it snows everytime with no problems. Tires really do make a the differance along with gentle inputs on all the controls.


I have Toyo Observes and have made many weekend drives over the mountain passes in the snow with NO trouble, even passing lines of slow moving cars to the point where they decided to follow me as a pack leader.

Drove it all last winter, no problem.
Driving it this winter, no problem so far.

Prepare the car for the conditions, making sure you drive with consideration for the potentials and it does splendid.

The only problem I've ever had was when I had to stop to yield for traffic on ice, the road was sloped to the side, and when I tried to go I just spun and slid down the slope. A light bump of tire to curb and I got moving and had no more trouble after that.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Blizzaks FTW!
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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I'm a tech over at the Kirkland Firestone just to let you Washingtonians know, so say hi if anybody sees me. I got the hook up on Blizzaks and Bridgestone tires so if you ever decide to stop by, tell them you know me, name is Marc.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2point4gsx,Jan 11 2007, 06:18 AM
You've got to be kidding. RWD with hardly any weight over the rear tires. Worst combination possible. Although my Z rated tires with -2.5 camber out back does make it even worse. Any hint of the gas pedal and you're spinning. Any sign of braking and you're sliding.
He's not kidding, try it with snow tires.

PS- the S carries more than half it's weight over the rear tires.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:08 AM
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We had some early snow here in MI which I got to experience with my S. I felt very uncomfortable. I put it in the garage the next day to drive the 96 explorer and put storage insurance on it. Then the snow went away and was about 40-55 up to early January. We just started getting colder temps again, which I'm kinda bummed I put it away so early cause now all I want to do is drive it. Only positive is that Ive saved a bunch on insurance.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakup,Jan 10 2007, 10:15 PM
S2000 doesn't suck in the snow, the tires you have are what suck.
With Dunlop M3's, I made it across my 25 mile commute without a problem when there was about an inch of snow out.
50/50 weight dist. added to the fact that it has very little torque to accidentally get you into trouble makes it a pretty decent snow-going vehicle.
Came here to say this.

The S isn't the problem, your tires are.

Go to tirerack.com, and get the dunlop m3s.

To anyone who still blames the S, please read up on tires (snow, and more) while at tirerack (check the 'tire tech' part) first.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2point4gsx,Jan 11 2007, 01:18 AM
You've got to be kidding. RWD with hardly any weight over the rear tires. Worst combination possible. Although my Z rated tires with -2.5 camber out back does make it even worse. Any hint of the gas pedal and you're spinning. Any sign of braking and you're sliding.
Excuse me, but the S2000 has approximately 50% of the weight over the rear tires. Old (60's) RWD cars often had closer to 40% over the rear wheels, and they had open differentials. But we managed to drive them to work whenever it snowed.

Car and Driver magazine did a recent test comparing all-season, snow, and summer high-performance tires in the snow. Their plan was to accelerate 0-50 mph then stop, timing acceleration time and measuring stopping distance. Snow tires performed better than all-season, but the margin wasn't huge. They couldn't even get the summer tires up to 50 mph.

It's not the car: it's the tires. If it's not the tires, it's the driver.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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You are wrong. I drive my S in the snow with SNOW tires and it tackles all winter weather without a problem.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Thus the reason I have other vehicles.
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