I think we've come full circle.
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Originally Posted by DrCloud,May 12 2006, 06:39 AM
Originally Posted by xviper
...we should look down upon those who don't "belly up to the bar".
Is this the first sign of burn out? Forgetting key words?
,and even then.... 
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I think we're getting a little off track on this. I didn't start the thread to bash on anyone, especially young (or old) newbies. I merely wanted to point out that these sorts of questions, although popping up from time to time, that lately, we seem to have encountered a renewal of what appears to be a cyclical event. It may mean that a significant number of new owners have come on board, thereby causing the current rise in the "peaks and valleys" of a trend.
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I think a "one-stop-FAQ" (one that includes topics ranging from electronics, maintenance, modifications, to model year differences) will help eliminate some, but not all, of these questions. It is a little hard to navigate through topics in a forum layout; it'll be a easier to navigate through topics in "technical support" layout, which allows one to drill down into a given topic if desired. I've seen site moderators working hard in writing/collecting pieces about these questions, and making them sticky threads, but that still requires a certain level of patience and trial/error in such format.
Of course, creating a true FAQ -- like the ones that you see in major commerical sites (i.e. Dell Computer's Technical Support site) -- from scratch will require a significant use of resources. More specifically, that will take people a lot of time and money to maintain. In order to have that, this site will probably need to charge a significantly higher membership fee in order to maintain such service.
Another two of the contributing factors to the repetitiveness of these questions are the limitation of the search engine and the quality of search results. As I mentioned in the Site Info forum previously:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=384246
I sometimes cannot locate a specific post using the search function when I KNOW that certain keyword(s) exists. On the other hand, that issue is only exacerbated by the amount of meaningless thread titles and the number of typographical errors in threads. Going through some of the search results can be extremely hard and frustrating at times. Then more and more of these posts will come up, and all of that will just end up in a viscious cycle ...
One may ask: What can be done to mitigate the issue of having these repetitive threads? There is really nothing one can do given the nature of the community -- this all loops back the amount of available resource. Also, newbies will just need to be more pro-active and patient in looking for answers to their questions, but then, this is not grade-school and cannot teach people do to that. I feel having the "Introduction" forum is very useful. At least it gives newbies a chance to have some guidance as to where to look for info, and a chance for other owners to redirect them to the proper forum.
In any case, I personally feel that this is one of the highest quality and well-maintained forums/enthusiast sites that I have come across, especially considering the number of users and volume of topics.
Of course, creating a true FAQ -- like the ones that you see in major commerical sites (i.e. Dell Computer's Technical Support site) -- from scratch will require a significant use of resources. More specifically, that will take people a lot of time and money to maintain. In order to have that, this site will probably need to charge a significantly higher membership fee in order to maintain such service.
Another two of the contributing factors to the repetitiveness of these questions are the limitation of the search engine and the quality of search results. As I mentioned in the Site Info forum previously:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=384246
I sometimes cannot locate a specific post using the search function when I KNOW that certain keyword(s) exists. On the other hand, that issue is only exacerbated by the amount of meaningless thread titles and the number of typographical errors in threads. Going through some of the search results can be extremely hard and frustrating at times. Then more and more of these posts will come up, and all of that will just end up in a viscious cycle ...
One may ask: What can be done to mitigate the issue of having these repetitive threads? There is really nothing one can do given the nature of the community -- this all loops back the amount of available resource. Also, newbies will just need to be more pro-active and patient in looking for answers to their questions, but then, this is not grade-school and cannot teach people do to that. I feel having the "Introduction" forum is very useful. At least it gives newbies a chance to have some guidance as to where to look for info, and a chance for other owners to redirect them to the proper forum.
In any case, I personally feel that this is one of the highest quality and well-maintained forums/enthusiast sites that I have come across, especially considering the number of users and volume of topics.
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I've been trying to create a compendium of links to useful threads in the introductions forum. It's pretty good; doesn't answer all newbie questions, but it's getting there.
It's simply true that there are a lot of new owners that I see over in Intro (and I'm sure that's not all of 'em on the site), particularly in the turnover of used S2000s. What can you do?
Personally, I'd rather have someone re-ask a question then not to get an answer because they can't locate something via a search. But, yeah, I could certainly understand why folks get tired of re-hearing questions.
It's simply true that there are a lot of new owners that I see over in Intro (and I'm sure that's not all of 'em on the site), particularly in the turnover of used S2000s. What can you do?
Personally, I'd rather have someone re-ask a question then not to get an answer because they can't locate something via a search. But, yeah, I could certainly understand why folks get tired of re-hearing questions.
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Chaz -- Another way to look at this is simply that the regulars need the occasional steam-blowing exercise to say reasonably fresh.
And I suppose that there could be information in all this. Xviper's comment about cycles and yours about turnover suggest there's a "climatology" buried in this repetitive topic posting. (Sorry to call it that, but that's my field, climate.) It probably says something about how long people keep their new S2000s before selling them to the next generation of owners, or something. HPH
And I suppose that there could be information in all this. Xviper's comment about cycles and yours about turnover suggest there's a "climatology" buried in this repetitive topic posting. (Sorry to call it that, but that's my field, climate.) It probably says something about how long people keep their new S2000s before selling them to the next generation of owners, or something. HPH