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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 06:20 PM
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Yes the S2000 is not perfect, however I spent 6 months trying everything on the market, new & used when looking for something "nice" to drive 10 years ago, & the S had no close competitors. The steering gives little feed back, & is too direct for really fast corners, but at even near legal speeds it is fine. Across the top of the mountain at Bathurst you need changes of front wheel deflection in the 1 to 2 degrees range, & with steering as direct as the S this would require extreme concentration, far too tiring in long races, but it works fine in tighter short circuit racing & road driving.

Watch any World Championship F1 or F2 race & you will see all the cars require full crossed arm steering in the tighter hairpins. They have this ratio steering as any tighter makes high speed, 150+ MPH cornering, very difficult to control accurately.

To put my comments in perspective, I raced in those glorious days when you could still buy last years Formula 1 to race, & you did not need a team of 20 to run the engine. I finished second in the Aus Formula 1, six race championship driving a Brabham Repco.

I bought the S for car club runs through the ranges near here, & for week day jaunts with my lady when the weather is nice. I wouldn't have kept it for 10 years if there was anything better for this.
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Old racer
Yes the S2000 is not perfect, however I spent 6 months trying everything on the market, new & used when looking for something "nice" to drive 10 years ago, & the S had no close competitors. The steering gives little feed back, & is too direct for really fast corners, but at even near legal speeds it is fine. Across the top of the mountain at Bathurst you need changes of front wheel deflection in the 1 to 2 degrees range, & with steering as direct as the S this would require extreme concentration, far too tiring in long races, but it works fine in tighter short circuit racing & road driving.

Watch any World Championship F1 or F2 race & you will see all the cars require full crossed arm steering in the tighter hairpins. They have this ratio steering as any tighter makes high speed, 150+ MPH cornering, very difficult to control accurately.

To put my comments in perspective, I raced in those glorious days when you could still buy last years Formula 1 to race, & you did not need a team of 20 to run the engine. I finished second in the Aus Formula 1, six race championship driving a Brabham Repco.

I bought the S for car club runs through the ranges near here, & for week day jaunts with my lady when the weather is nice. I wouldn't have kept it for 10 years if there was anything better for this.
This is just me asking out of curiosity (and maybe slightly off topic of the original post), but did no Porsche offering in the last 10 years draw you away from the S? What about the Miata and GR86 of today?
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Old Sep 30, 2023 | 08:10 PM
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No bad driver, I preferred the S2000 to any of the Porsche available 10 years ago, & I have not had any reason to look again.

I recently drove the latest Miata a friend has bought. It is kinder more forgiving car than the S, & the performance is getting up there, but I prefer the S. I don't think the GR86 is in the same ball park yet. I think my S, & the TR8 with 330 BHP 4.6L Rover in it, & my stock TR7 will see my requirements out now. At 83 my driving ability is not what it once was, & I doubt it will improve again.
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Old Oct 7, 2023 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Old racer
No bad driver, I preferred the S2000 to any of the Porsche available 10 years ago, & I have not had any reason to look again.

I recently drove the latest Miata a friend has bought. It is kinder more forgiving car than the S, & the performance is getting up there, but I prefer the S. I don't think the GR86 is in the same ball park yet. I think my S, & the TR8 with 330 BHP 4.6L Rover in it, & my stock TR7 will see my requirements out now. At 83 my driving ability is not what it once was, & I doubt it will improve again.
I'm so happy you're still out here driving and sending it at 83. My wife and I hope to be as lucky.
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