Originally Posted by profpin,Aug 23 2004, 09:36 AM

yes its true!!! the r1 is only louder at wot.. other than that its not as loud as people perceive.. its alot more quiet than invidia, t1r, jic, magna flow, hks, spugen..( those are the exhaust that the uppermidwest owners have that i compared my fart can to..) its louder than mugen and slightly on the comptech.. im also running a cat, cuz my car must pass emission. as far as hp gain?? sorry to dissapoint but no real gains here, just weight loss..