Coilovers by themselves mean nothing - they are simply the sleeves that go over the shock.

Yes they are great if matched to a revalved shock, and simply for the purpose of adjusting ride height in order to corner weight your car.

Mind you everytime you change ride height - you will change your alignment. THe s2k is VERY sensitive to alignment.

Re the discussion with 17" wheels, the factors to note are increased weight, increased tread, and possible stuff ups with geometry.

At the moment, only the MF10, Pr6 (not in production) and that other one (umm evolution?? can't remember name) are at the right 17" offsets. Otherwise a change in offset will change suspension geometry.

As for the comment re the stock shocks can handle stiffer springs - many people will argue otherwise; the rear shock is very underdamped already on bumpy roads -

 

Ok so what if I put a set of Eibachs because I wanted to decrease fender space? Would I suffer in handling from this 1" drop? I know eibach is repuatable and should be able to make springs that work well with the S2000. Anyone have an experiance with Eibachs on their S?

 

You might want to go do some research on coilovers and find out what they are before you post. I don' t think coilovers such as Zeal b6 or Tien RS are just sleeves that go over the shock! You have the term coilover mixed up with springs.


The reason that the s2000 becomes tail happy with just lowering springs is the fact that the stock dampening is not properly matched to the lowering springs.

 

funny s2k_fever The term coilover is in respect of the type of sleeve that goes over the shock - ie. the threaded sleeve, and typically used with standard sized ID springs of different rate.

eg. in the US, ground control makes "coilovers" being these spring perches.

Your Zeal b6 and Tein are "coilovers" in the sense that they use this sleeve - coloquial use perhaps - again, I note that the JDM spring set ups are typically very firm, and are good for track use perhaps, but are not sufficiently compliant for bumpy roads.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by soundzero



What differences the large wheel do to the handling is quite certain.

 

original question:
My car is not more tail happy. My car does not handle any worse than stock (that I can see). It cost me less than $150. I like the way lowered cars look. I think if you want aftermarket rims it would look funny at stock height. Performance is not everything to everyone considering you probably drive it more on the street than on the track and more at cruising speeds than at 10/10ths on city turns.

If lowering my car "the right way" cost me $1250 - $2000 for some full coilover suspension PLUS time and energy (and money) to have it corner-balanced (as it should be) and tuned (on a track) then I wouldn't even dream of it

I agree, car handles great in stock form. If you want to handle better then get better tires. If you want to race it at the track, get some race rubber. That is the best bang for your buck in handling increase and that is true for almost any car out there (except those that come with really sticky tires).

As for the body roll...sway bars might reduce your body roll but the car comes with stock sway bars. Switching to beefier sway bars alone MIGHT degrade handling unless you plan it out to match whatever else you want to do to the suspension. And I don't believe that they will reduce DIVE or SQUAT like the neuspeed springs did on my car.

Anyway...it's just $150 (or less). If you don't like them, just take them out and sell em!

 

Minboost, I'm interested in springs too. Money isn't a big issue, so I'm also considering coilovers. I don't really care to be constantly "tinkering" with the adjustments. I just want to do it once, get it right and leave it that way. My car is a daily driver, but I will be tracking it too. I find that my '02 S2000 has a bit more roll/dive/squat than my other cars. I'd like to get rid of some of it.

Do you have the stock wheels? How does it look? If you don't mind, please e-mail me a picture. I was concerned that the car would not look good lowered without larger/wider wheels.

BTW I lowered my 01 Boxster S with H&R sport springs. It was originally equipped with Porsche's 030 Sport Suspension which included stiffer shocks, stiffer springs and larger anti-roll bars. After lowering it and having Johnson's re-align the car it handled better and rode a bit smoother over minor bumps (probably due to the H&R springs being progressive versus the 030 springs non-progressive). Lowering the car allowed me to dial in more negative camber which helped alot. I track this car and it handles beautifully... I must admit it is presently my best handling car.

I would appreciate any and all comments on spring shock setups. Do the springs put you into another class at the track? Anyone out there use H&R or Eibachs?

TIA

 

STILLLLLLLL waiting for my springs to come.

 

SoCal Craig: I don't have any pics of my car but I can take some tomorrow. Send me an email to remind me and I will reply back - minboost@mbautosport.com

gomarlins3: why r u waiting so long? Neuspeed springs are easy to get! If you need some just email me as well and I'll fedex some to you.

 

There was an article published at least a year ago where 3 tuners were asked to tune the S2000 with all their best stuff to produce the best handling car possible. The 3 cars were tested against the stock car and all 3 were slower then the stock car on the track after thousands in mods per car! I don't think there is a lot to be gained if anything in lowering the car. If you do it, do it because you prefer the way it looks lowered. More then likely the car will not handle as well.