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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Dec 17 2007, 12:21 PM
No, he's right. Torsen type LSDs act like open diffs when one wheel is off the ground.


The T-2 has the plate to compensate, ours does not. Even both on the ground, the Torsen doesn't fully lock, but that is why is is so streetable.

The OP wants to know if the car will drive "faster" with a 1.5, sure, but it will change the driving dynamics considerably. It will not stop oversteer. IMHO it will not make the act less prone to oversteer in the wet. It is a fair bit of money and only appropriate for someone with a lot of experience. AFAIK Get a bunch of track drivers classes and then make that decision.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Most people aren't capable/driving hard enough to lift in the inside rear wheel anyway.
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by INTJ,Dec 17 2007, 04:39 PM


The T-2 has the plate to compensate, ours does not. Even both on the ground, the Torsen doesn't fully lock, but that is why is is so streetable.

The OP wants to know if the car will drive "faster" with a 1.5, sure, but it will change the driving dynamics considerably. It will not stop oversteer. IMHO it will not make the act less prone to oversteer in the wet. It is a fair bit of money and only appropriate for someone with a lot of experience. AFAIK Get a bunch of track drivers classes and then make that decision.
This is in no way trying to contradict what you are stating.
In my personal experience with my Kaaz 1.5 LSD I have had no ill experience driving the car. The car will push a little through a turn but, it is controllable. In wet weather I am mindful of the rear push and drive with more care and caution. So far it has been a pleasurable experience and has raised the fun factor of the car quite a bit. I also have 4.56 gears and a AP2 transmission.
I am no great driver by any stretch, I am going to an instructional driving course on January 12th. I will find out then how much of a change it is over the stock LSD. I have done a little auto x before with the stock LSD, so I have something to compare to
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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To the OP, did you notice my previous post? A larger front anti sway bar is what you need. You can get one for around 150 bucks and takes 2 hours to install if you're lazy and drunk.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Note that a plate type diff will lock when the wheels are turning at different rates (i.e. through any turn), while a gear type LSD (like the S2000 has) will lock only when torque is applied.

So for example in slippery conditions, if you coast through a turn the gear type diff will stay open while the plate diff will lock.

That's the theory though, my 928 had a plate diff and still was much easier to drive in the wet than the S2000 with a gear type LSD.


Regarding lifting a rear wheel, you'll only be able to do that on track and with a non-standard suspension setup. If you do lift a wheel, the OEM gear type LSD will indeed spin away power.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Dec 17 2007, 07:00 PM
To the OP, did you notice my previous post? A larger front anti sway bar is what you need. You can get one for around 150 bucks and takes 2 hours to install if you're lazy and drunk.
Lazy and drunk from a raiders fan?
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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I'm no Raider's fan - in fact I couldn't tell you 3 football players if you offered me 1 million dollars

Go to youtube and do a search for "whistle tip"

Aww hell, here you go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by afwfjustin,Dec 18 2007, 05:49 PM
I'm no Raider's fan - in fact I couldn't tell you 3 football players if you offered me 1 million dollars

Go to youtube and do a search for "whistle tip"

Aww hell, here you go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA
Bub Rub makes an appearance.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Does LSD improve handing of the car??
Makes me see all sorts of weird things, but I really try not to take it if driving.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Dec 17 2007, 12:21 PM
No, he's right. Torsen type LSDs act like open diffs when one wheel is off the ground.
My bad, but I didn't mean completely off the ground. I misread and thought he meant it would send power to the wheel being 'lifted' or 'slipping'
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