MGL 51334 Oil Filter
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MGL 51334 Oil Filter
A local auto dealer has a 2004 S2K for sale I am interested in.
They posted their service record for what they did and they did an oil change with 10W-30 and a MicroGard MGL51334 rather than an OEM filter:
MicroGard MGL51334
Given how picky about filters the S2K is, is this a red flag? O'Reilly says it fits, but as we know so does the wrong Honda filter.
They posted their service record for what they did and they did an oil change with 10W-30 and a MicroGard MGL51334 rather than an OEM filter:
MicroGard MGL51334
Given how picky about filters the S2K is, is this a red flag? O'Reilly says it fits, but as we know so does the wrong Honda filter.
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The oil filter discussions on this forum are out of control lol.
No it's not a red flag. The aftermarket filter itself isnt the issue.
The issue is that the aftermarket filter cannot be properly tightened. When you go drive the car for any distance, there's a high chance. it will vibrate loose and spin off, causing an engine fire and/or engine damage due to oil starvation.
What you should do is (if you buy the car), install a genuine Honda S2000 spec filter at the right torque. The S2000 spec filter cannot reliably be tightened without a tool. So...you should buy the $20 or 30 filter tool and the correct S2000 spec Honda filter, if you plan to buy a S2000. And give the tech the parts and specific instructions to use a torque wrench.
If you need to embark on a road trip to get the car home, do the filter swap before you start your trip. You can figure out the logistics of doing so.
Its a nuanced thing...so it sounds really stupid to any technician, and you'll probably get a few people laughing. But sounding stupid and getting your way sure beats blowing up your engine or setting your car on fire.
Use common sense and good persuasion skills to get your request across.
No it's not a red flag. The aftermarket filter itself isnt the issue.
The issue is that the aftermarket filter cannot be properly tightened. When you go drive the car for any distance, there's a high chance. it will vibrate loose and spin off, causing an engine fire and/or engine damage due to oil starvation.
What you should do is (if you buy the car), install a genuine Honda S2000 spec filter at the right torque. The S2000 spec filter cannot reliably be tightened without a tool. So...you should buy the $20 or 30 filter tool and the correct S2000 spec Honda filter, if you plan to buy a S2000. And give the tech the parts and specific instructions to use a torque wrench.
If you need to embark on a road trip to get the car home, do the filter swap before you start your trip. You can figure out the logistics of doing so.
Its a nuanced thing...so it sounds really stupid to any technician, and you'll probably get a few people laughing. But sounding stupid and getting your way sure beats blowing up your engine or setting your car on fire.
Use common sense and good persuasion skills to get your request across.
Last edited by B serious; Nov 8, 2023 at 11:23 AM.
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Or just rig up a temp safety wire to whatever filter is on car. A large hose clamp and some wire is all needed.
Clamp tightened to filter, then gerry rig wire from clamp to somewhere solid, so wire would prevent filter coming loose. Ok if it looks ugly, just need to get home.
Or just don't redline it. Filter ain't coming loose if you drive like grandma.
Once home you can either install correct filter and torque it correctly, or get a real filter safety wire kit.
Clamp tightened to filter, then gerry rig wire from clamp to somewhere solid, so wire would prevent filter coming loose. Ok if it looks ugly, just need to get home.
Or just don't redline it. Filter ain't coming loose if you drive like grandma.
Once home you can either install correct filter and torque it correctly, or get a real filter safety wire kit.
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Dealer ain't gonna lower the price for a $9 oil filter...
Buy the car and have the Honda dealer across the street change the oil and filter. Don't do it yourself!. Honda dealers always either had the right filter in stock or got it the next day. Any loose oil filter will now become the Honda dealer's liability. Save the DIY oil changes for later.
-- Chuck
Buy the car and have the Honda dealer across the street change the oil and filter. Don't do it yourself!. Honda dealers always either had the right filter in stock or got it the next day. Any loose oil filter will now become the Honda dealer's liability. Save the DIY oil changes for later.
-- Chuck
Last edited by Chuck S; Nov 10, 2023 at 05:56 AM. Reason: If anyone missed the liability sentence.