OK, i'm 37 and when i was young no one drove imports, well people drove them but not on purpose...

anyway we all had rear drivers so what i would call basic skills were perfected on these cars not the least of which was getting your car out of a slide. fish tail whatever and of cource once mastered power sliding was cool (you guys call this drifting).

Anyway now almost everytime i go on this board there is some guy or girl that can't figure out:

Why did i spin out?

What's wrong with my car?

Why does the car fish tail?

why did i crash?

they go on and on.... i relaize the generation behind me was brought up on front drivers do you just get into these cars and floor it like your playing PS2? i mean it is possible to lose it in a front driver right? Even if this is true i still cut my teeth on big wheels (what happened when you pulled the yellow hand brake guys) later bikes and cycles hell i used to power slide on the lawn tractor!!

Sliding in a car when done with power, or because of a wet surface or snow and getting it straight is minimal driving skill and should be taught with parr. parking in driver's ed.

You guys are so clueless that you have to post here for instructions???

i don't get it.

 

ok...

 

shouldn't you be riding one of your:

Other "Vehicles"
Trek Y-11 full suspension MTN. Bike
Misc. Burton Snowboards
'97 Mystral Escape Wind Surfer
O'Brien Wakeboard

 

it was a choice between cutting my teeth on big wheels and posting on s2ki, and gosh darn it, posting on s2ki was just easier to do while at work

 

Rhetorical: Did any of your RWD domestics have 50/50 weight distribution?

FWD is VERY forgiving! They can slide but, you wouldn't be trying to do a power slide in the first place. In FWD if you start to slide, you can usually just slow down...

 

Most kids that are getting this car can now afford the used ones. The prices went down. Not so in 2000 or 2001. Also most of these same kids had an integra, civic, prelude, celica, sentra, etc. Mostly all small compact imports with little to no power. I know I did the same thing. Nothing wrong with it. Most kids arent familiar with a RWD setup and its handling characteristics and 50/50 weight distribution. They are used to 100 hp FWD setups. Anyway they will learn. Most of us did the hardway.

 

its the generation...Im 19, i know how to control my car...I started with a FWD eclipse, then moved up to the s2k...its a big difference, but as long as your not dumb and messing around it will be ok...

the old school rwd muscle cars have massive amounts of torque, and im sure they are much harder to control than an s2k...

 

You have some great points. I have noticed this as well, even though I came from one of those 110 hp monster fwd cars. However I learned to drive a Toyota T-100 truck before I went to a fwd car. That right there taught me how to handle the light rear end of the truck when it decieded to come around on me for gettting on the gas to hard when I was in a turn. Plus it does look like you are right about the newer people getting in the S and just flooring it like they do in GT and thinking that they know what there doing. I had my car a week and took it to the local autocross and started learing how to drive it there not on the street where I can hurt somebody or some thing.
Bryan

 

Some of these posters should learn how to walk before they start running.


In rallying they say "going slower is sometimes faster", and that would save a lot of heartbreakers.

I remember when I was in driver's ed, they taught about fishtailing, etc...

 

Driving skill isn't really taught anymore. High school children take driver's education in cushy, FWD sedans with automatic transmissions. Then they go home and continue driving a FWD automatic belonging to their fat, lazy, complacent parents.

Anyhow, driving on a public road is more than 90% attitude. It takes very little technical skill to operate any passenger vehicle, and unless you're legally handicapped, you have that much skill. These people "losing" their cars are not doing so out of lack of ability, they are doing it because of a lack of maturity and responsibility. Inclimate weather notwithstanding, there is absolutely no excuse for even getting into a sketchy situation in the first place.

They simply need to grow the f*ck up, and that's all there is to it.