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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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The main information I can add to this thread is that your comprehensive portion of your auto insurance would not cover such damage. This coverage is for only OUTSIDE sources of damage, such as a falling tree or the results of one who damages your car in a parking lot and then just drives away. The only way your auto insurance would cover internal engine damage is if it were due to fire or flood.

Other than this, the subject is interesting to me because there have been so many posts here about engine damage, where the dealer and AHM claimed "overreving" as a warranty defense and where the owner swears he or she never overreved.

As per your post, you might have overreved, so IMO the settlement is fair. But for the record, as to the other "overreving" disputes, I would like to say that it is a shame that Honda saw fit not to equip these cars with some sort of "shift blocking" mechanism (similar in engineering to that used on the Corvette for gas mileage purposes) to, in this case, prevent shifting to a gear too low for the speed by blocking that shift.

The transmission on the s2k is very easy to master on the upshifts. "snick, snick." But after three years of driving mine, the downshifts still thow me. I get the wrong gear sometimes, but fortunately far enough below redline not to have this issue. But I'm an "old guy" who cut his teeth on a Jag XK 150 and a '64 GTO. On the downshifts, the s2k is the most difficult transmission to master that I've encountered.

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Richard
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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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does missing the 4th gear and going into 2nd always damage the engine, because i did that once but i think i caught it in time before it hit redline. i have been driving for a good 1000 miles since and no engine light or anything else noticable has happend. could my engine be damaged and me not know about it?
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Old May 14, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by MY04NFRS2000
does missing the 4th gear and going into 2nd always damage the engine, because i did that once but i think i caught it in time before it hit redline. i have been driving for a good 1000 miles since and no engine light or anything else noticable has happend. could my engine be damaged and me not know about it?
No, it doesn't always do damage. The higher the rev you start at before the misshift plus how long it takes you to realize you made the mistake and get it out of gear contribute to whether there's damage and/or how much damage takes place. Misshifting 4-2 at 1000 rpm isn't a big deal. Misshifting 4-2 at 9000 rpm's is bad.
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Old May 14, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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No, missing fourth and getting into second will cause NO damage UNLESS your engine revs over 9k as a result. So if you are just putting around town and do this (as I have) there will be no problem.

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Old May 15, 2004 | 01:48 AM
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a owner in our Del -Val club had your very situation. He was very upfront with the dealership, had been a customer of theres for 30 years (he's 60). His approach was exactly the same as yours but the out come was not. The dealership he delt with for 30 years cut him zero break and charged him full price as well as did not go to bat for him with the AHM. Here are a some pics of his motor. There is a nice ending though... He did after his car was fixed decide to sell it and purchase an 04' from Hardtopguy who's service was excellent as well as his price which his dealer could not match. He then promptly drove it over to his local dealer to show them what happens when they don't treat there customners properly.

the bad motor

and his new 04'
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Old May 15, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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I can almost bet my money on who that dealership is.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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well, i hate to sound like a bad guy, but AHM and the dealer were SOOOOO nice to do this for you. this was entirely your fault and you really should have taken full responsibility for it. The dealer took a $3K hit on this with NO reimbursement. you should definitely return the favor by giving them business.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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steven,

The poster already admited that it was his fault.
So I don't think he was denying the issue.

kudos to AHM and the dealership for helping him out!
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Old May 15, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by steven975
well, i hate to sound like a bad guy, but AHM and the dealer were SOOOOO nice to do this for you.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Yea...I've downshifted from sixth to second in passing slower cars just to whizz by them. But, I am very careful when it comes to downshifting. I shift more slowly instead of just doing it within the blink of an eye. I know that most cars can't compete with the "S" anyways so it doesn't bother me that I take a few extra seconds to make sure I've downshifted correctly.
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