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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 02:53 AM
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I sent him a PM, to get him here on the forums. I think it's fixable.
1 headlight, 1 front bumper, 1 front wing and the hood. Ebay and classifieds here, he should be able to find everything he needs.
I wonder how the suspension is doing tho...
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 04:46 AM
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This is a post I put on another site, but it fits here. I'll mention I still hold F2 records I set in an F2 Brabham, almost 50 years ago, so I could drive a bit once upon a time.

I had to go to town today, 25Km from home on good country main roads. It was a beautiful morning, 27C, about 30% fluffy clouds, taking the edge off the sun, the sort of day just designed for convertibles, so I took the S2000.

Business done, I headed for home about 10.30. If anything the day was even nicer, I was cruising along left hand at 10 o’clock, right elbow on the arm rest, fingers resting on the wheel about 4/5 o’clock, listening to my music, & taking in the sheer pleasure of being alive. No I was not “DRIVING”.

There’s a reasonable hill on the way, my wife’s Mazda 2 will kick back to 3Rd if asked to hold speed up it. It has recently been resurfaced with very dark black smooth hot mix, but with a coarse grippy surface. It curves right, then lefty near the top, with curves that would become fun above 125Km/H or a bit above. Some drivers slow just a little from the 100Km/H speed limit.

So while I’m off with the fairies, discussing what a wonderful day it is, sitting on about the legal 100Km/H, with just enough throttle to maintain my speed up the hill, the tail starts to go out. This took me completely by surprise, as I was driving quite gently, & would have been going at least 20Km/H faster if trying to have fun.

I took off some lock, & adjusted my hands to a better driving position. By now the tail is a long way out, & still going with all lock removed. So what do I do? Well what I did was make the obvious idiot mistake of both backing off, & applying opposite lock, simultaneously. The tail snapped back the other way, what else could it do? Backing off, or opposite lock should have overcome my problem, doing both was asking for what I got.

About this time I noticed 3 cars coming towards me, going the other way. They all had their wipers on, but none were slowing, or trying to get out of my way, so the cars histrionics can’t have looked as bad from outside, as they felt from inside. It was not raining there, but was a mile or so further on.

With my new knowledge of the wet road, I very carefully reduced the amount of opposite lock I was applying to each swing, but I had covered at least 70 yards fishtailing, before I had the thing totally straight. By now the wet road was obvious.

I think I had just caught the edge of a passing shower, where the damp road & dust was particularly slippery. Further on, it was not as slippery, where the dust was washed off the road. The tyres are 9 month old, top of the range Bridgestone’s, so I don’t think I should blame them.

Next time I plan on communing with nature, or chatting with the fairies, while driving, I’ll take one of the Triumphs. They don’t get so upset, if you don’t give them your full attention. Jealous little buggers these S2000s. They are great cars, & I love mine dearly, but it does require to be driven with attention. A cruiser it is not.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:19 AM
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One thing is consistent in the stories of people who buy a strung out sports car and lose it. They have no training what so ever. FWD cars have flattened the leanring curve. There was a time applying throttle in your sedan on a turn kicked out the back end, because every sedan was RWD. Grew up where it snows and you'd do this for sport.

I tell everyone of my friends who buys a RWD to do some autox and get at least a few track days in.

I've logged 60K over the last few years in the S; sunny, pouring raining and even in ice/snow/below freezing - all on extreme summer performance tires.

Keep safe everyone
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Posts like this make me so thankful to have driven a 1966 RWD relic with skinny all-season tires as my first car. I lost control exactly one time in that car when I was 16 and it put me into a snow drift on the side of the road. Luckily the car and I were both fine. Since that car I've only driven RWD aside from a 1.5 year stint with an AWD 3000GT.

I agree with the post above--if more people grew up with RWD cars in general I don't think the S2000 would even have the reputation it does for snap oversteer.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Before buying my s2k, I made myself read every post on every page of the accident thread. It was actually difficult to look through that many pages of lost cars (and lost lives in a few cases), but it is a good lesson in the dangers of reckless driving on public roads (not to imply all accidents in that thread were caused that way).

I also recently participated in my first autox, and can’t say enough times how valuable it is for learning the limits of the car. I got wonky a number of times, but managed to always correct. Now I know what it takes to break the rear free, and what to do in case it happens.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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I dropped a couple cents in that thread when I first saw it. Tough luck, but them's the breaks... Traction control is learned, not added as an option on our AP1s.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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People will disagree with me, but I feel like my MY08 is more twitchy than my 93 FD or my 04 RX-8 were. I was always comfortable with those cars, the S2k just doesn't have that level of composure. Maybe there's something wrong with my suspension, I dunno. It feels almost similar to my old Fox Body Mustang. Loose, wants to get out of its own way sometimes.

I feel bad for the MY03 destroyed in that story and I feel like the driver should have spent $500 of his downpayment on HPDE classes.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Glad I've got 275 35's (tire size in case that was vague) in the back on my car.. when the turbo comes on it WILL put the back out in almost all the gears.. lucky I started out driving with a 3 series so I'm not new to RWD.
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Looking at buying my first s2k but reading stories like this worries me a lot, do you think it would be worth getting the 2006< for the traction control option to stop things like this happening?
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Carper
Looking at buying my first s2k but reading stories like this worries me a lot, do you think it would be worth getting the 2006< for the traction control option to stop things like this happening?
Just don't be a dolt who boots the throttle and lifts in the middle of an intersection.
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