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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 04:35 AM
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http://www.geocities.com/busybeetoys/scoop/edn-36.htm

"Due to poor sales in Japan and Europe, Honda will introduce a more powerful Type-R version of the S2000 convertible. Since a lack of torque has been the greatest criticism, Honda will increase the displacement of the 4-cylinder engine to somewhere between 2.2 to 2.5 litres, with most of the gain going to improving low-end torque. An already spartan interior means there is not much weight to be lost in the transformation to Type-R status. An automatic transmission is also in the works as Honda gets desperate to expand the customer base to better match its European rivals"

Can someone verify this?
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 06:20 AM
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Rumor made the rounds on this thread: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...&threadid=26127

General concensus is that the source is very unreliable.
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 08:10 AM
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I wouldn't believe what you hear on a geocities site. If you look at www.nsxprime.com you might notice all of the articles that they have scanned concerning the upcoming changes to the NSX. They all say something different or show the car with different pictures.
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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I wish the Type R rumors were true but I highly doubt it. I think the S2000 sales response has Honda very pleased at the moment and in my opinion the expense of re-doing the whole car to satisfy a very limited market is not feasible for their marketing guys.

Who knows, this is just my opinion. I would be one of the first to trade my S2K in for a type R if it ever became available.
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 01:35 PM
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Although we would all love to see a Type R S2000, it probably wouldn't have a 2.2L The problem is that an inline 4 of that size would require balance shafts otherwise it will run quite roughly, and these cannot spin to 9k.
The Prelude 2.2L had balance shafts and really can't be taken much higher than the stock redline without risking damage.
I doubt Honda will build a big 4 without balance shafts, and 2 liters is recognized as the limit in size for an inline four without them.
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by S2000yellow
Although we would all love to see a Type R S2000, it probably wouldn't have a 2.2L The problem is that an inline 4 of that size would require balance shafts otherwise it will run quite roughly, and these cannot spin to 9k.
The Prelude 2.2L had balance shafts and really can't be taken much higher than the stock redline without risking damage.
I doubt Honda will build a big 4 without balance shafts, and 2 liters is recognized as the limit in size for an inline four without them.
That's interesting. I wasn't aware that the S2000 didn't have balance shafts.

However, it has an extremely strong crank girddle, so I'm not convinced a stroker motor can't be made to work.

Someone on here is in the process of designing a 2.4l stroker complete with 10,000rpm redline. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 01:46 PM
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It can certainly be built, but it will not be a super smooth engine, especially at idle and mid range, ever notice that an Accord with a larger 2.3 L engine idles more smotthly than our S2000's?
It's the balance shafts, not the cams, after all our low speed (under 6k rpm) cams are no more radical than an Accords and thus should idle just as smoothly.
However a stroker motor, even though rough, would certainly turn the S2000 into a giant slayer, (if it isn't already).
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 02:00 PM
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Well...I luv my Stook...but if they introduce the Type R Stook over here...lemme in on the band wagon!!!!
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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 04:48 PM
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This is more like pure speculation, I can't believe someone actually dug it up and decided to bring the thread to the surface again.

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Old Sep 30, 2001 | 05:04 PM
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I'd definitely call it bogus. If sales are poor, I doubt that Honda would spend money to make another one that even fewer people could purchase.

Though I think a lot of us still have our appendages crossed.
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