No synthetic?!?
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I have experienced oil-burning inconsistency in my car:
At around 5,000 miles - oil burning stopped
5,000 to 9,000 miles - Mobil Drive Clean and Canadian Honda filters - no oil burned
Next several thousand miles - Mobil 1 with Canadian Honda filters - no oil burned, or not enough to notice between oil changes
Switched to Mobil 1 with Mobil 1 M105 oversize filters - start to burn oil again
At around 19K miles, I changed to Mobil 1 with HAMP filter, oil burning stopped. And I thought, good, I found the cause - it was the Mobil filters. Then at the last oil change, I used the new Mobil 1 SuperSyn with HAMP filter, and the car starts to burn oil again!
What gives? I'm thinking about switching back to regular dino oil and see if that would make a difference.
At around 5,000 miles - oil burning stopped
5,000 to 9,000 miles - Mobil Drive Clean and Canadian Honda filters - no oil burned
Next several thousand miles - Mobil 1 with Canadian Honda filters - no oil burned, or not enough to notice between oil changes
Switched to Mobil 1 with Mobil 1 M105 oversize filters - start to burn oil again
At around 19K miles, I changed to Mobil 1 with HAMP filter, oil burning stopped. And I thought, good, I found the cause - it was the Mobil filters. Then at the last oil change, I used the new Mobil 1 SuperSyn with HAMP filter, and the car starts to burn oil again!
What gives? I'm thinking about switching back to regular dino oil and see if that would make a difference.
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I think oil burning is directly related to vtec'n. If I don't vtec, I don't burn any. You should keep track of the # of vtec incidents between months and weeks to see it that if that is the reason for the burning.
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Originally posted by FormerH22a4
I think oil burning is directly related to vtec'n. If I don't vtec, I don't burn any. You should keep track of the # of vtec incidents between months and weeks to see it that if that is the reason for the burning.
I think oil burning is directly related to vtec'n. If I don't vtec, I don't burn any. You should keep track of the # of vtec incidents between months and weeks to see it that if that is the reason for the burning.
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I have taken my car to the track in any of the aforementioned oil/filter configurations. With Mobil 1 and filter, it could burn as much as 1 quart in 50 miles of track driving. With Mobi1 1 Tri-Syn and HAMP filter, it didn't burn a drop.
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Mostly because there was no Mobil 1 handy when I did the first 2 oil changes, I switched over my S2K to Mobil 1 at 14,000km. The car was not burning any significant amount of oil then, nor has it been burning any more since switching.
That said, the notion that a car can't be broken in using synthetic oil is utter nonsense...I had a 2001 Porsche that shipped from the factory with a crankcase full of Mobil 1. Like all 911s, It burned oil like mad for the first 3000k, then settled down into a normal oil consumption pattern.
Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche), it is not a problem to use synthetic from Day 1. The idea that synthetic is "too slippery" or the "rings won't seat", etc., falls into the category of automotive urban myth.
Of course, we're all free to put whatever we want in our crankcases...and regardless of what anyone or any manufacturer says, this debate will continue ad nauseam...
That said, the notion that a car can't be broken in using synthetic oil is utter nonsense...I had a 2001 Porsche that shipped from the factory with a crankcase full of Mobil 1. Like all 911s, It burned oil like mad for the first 3000k, then settled down into a normal oil consumption pattern.
Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche), it is not a problem to use synthetic from Day 1. The idea that synthetic is "too slippery" or the "rings won't seat", etc., falls into the category of automotive urban myth.
Of course, we're all free to put whatever we want in our crankcases...and regardless of what anyone or any manufacturer says, this debate will continue ad nauseam...
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From: Findlay
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gcurnew
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Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche),
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Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche),
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From: SW, CT
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gcurnew
That said, the notion that a car can't be broken in using synthetic oil is utter nonsense...I had a 2001 Porsche that shipped from the factory with a crankcase full of Mobil 1. Like all 911s, It burned oil like mad for the first 3000k, then settled down into a normal oil consumption pattern.
Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche),
That said, the notion that a car can't be broken in using synthetic oil is utter nonsense...I had a 2001 Porsche that shipped from the factory with a crankcase full of Mobil 1. Like all 911s, It burned oil like mad for the first 3000k, then settled down into a normal oil consumption pattern.
Honda has its own engine break-in procedures, and what it believes are solid engineering and marketing reasons for specifying using dino oil in its engines. IMO, and in the opinion of at least one esteemed manufacturer (Porsche),
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From: La Jolla
Originally posted by gcurnew
...The idea that synthetic is "too slippery" or the "rings won't seat", etc., falls into the category of automotive urban myth...
...The idea that synthetic is "too slippery" or the "rings won't seat", etc., falls into the category of automotive urban myth...
I love it!!
You know, there really are differences between "natural" oil and synthetic oil. These differences aren't explained by myths but, rather, by this science that we call CHEMISTRY.
