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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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First 04 owner who wants to dump his stock rims.. let me know
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by SJSHARKS
This brings up more questions:

Why does increasing displacement automatically reduce the RPMS?

It doesn't necessarily, but in this case it was inevitable.

In reciprocating engines, the pistons and the valves move basically up and down. Obviously, the more mass you have (in the form of larger pistons if bored), the more energy in the piston as it moves at the same speed. If the redline with smaller piston was at the engine's tolerance, the redline would have to be lowered in order to not break the enginewith the larger pistons. If the engine is stroked, the piston must travel a longer distance in each revolution. Obviously, either boring or stroking could lower your redline - if the redline was set aggressively high.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:37 AM
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It's not going to be the MOST HP per liter in production car anymore

2.0L = 240hp
2.2L = 264hp

But if it is going to be 240hp with 2.2L then the 00-03 will be demanded
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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These hypothetical 2004 model specifications in general seem like modifications in my opinion should not distort the current s2k's concept in my opinion. The engine modifications for power at lower RPM's is a good idea to broaden performance to low end; and also supposes the implication by decreasing the maximum RPM's required for output, could potentially reduce incidence of catastrophic engine failure.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:02 AM
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I highly doubt you reading car magazines from outside of the US, but it just isn't that popular elsewhere. Car journos complain incessantly about the lack of torque, lack of steering feel, snappy chassis and dull exterior (not to mention no glovebox!).

And they are right. The car may need to appeal more to people other than engineers and zit-faced rich asian kids. I don't call this selling out. I call it getting smarter.

I just hope the 2.2 feels like a uber-H22A with heaps of torque throughout + stronger rear end. I can live without the 9000rpm redline.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:42 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FCGuy
[B]On a related topic, I recall reading that Honda is closing down the plant where they made the S2000 and NSX and moving to one of their existing facilities.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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I love my '03, but see nothing wrong with some freshen changes for the '04, afterall it is still the same generation. Honda has probably listened to all your bitches over the years and has decided to give you what you want to shut you guys up. Now, instead of showing graditude, you're still bitchin'. LOL! Be positive about changes to our baby. It's a good thing! -Ken
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:48 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by realthing
[B]I highly doubt you reading car magazines from outside of the US, but it just isn't that popular elsewhere. Car journos complain incessantly about the lack of torque, lack of steering feel, snappy chassis and dull exterior (not to mention no glovebox!).

And they are right. The car may need to appeal more to people other than engineers and zit-faced rich asian kids. I don't call this selling out. I call it getting smarter.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:50 AM
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In most cases, changing a true sportscar to make it appeal to a wider range of people is watering it down.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:26 AM
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I dunno. I just don't see Honda being all that concerned about making tons of money directly with the S. I mean, they sell approximately 8 billion civics and accords.

Rather, I believe they're trying to make a showpiece car. Something to reinforce the image that Honda == excellent engineering. Something that makes owners and employees proud to be associated with Honda. You know, the same reason that all of these companies spend huge $$$ to compete in F1, etc. Indirectly, this can generate a ton of sales through mindshare, much like the M series no doubt does for BMW.

In this light, I don't see Honda compromising the S so that they can sell some more. Quite the opposite.
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