The LSD plays a part here alright, but in a somewhat different way. When you gas it enough to break traction in a corner, the LSD makes BOTH wheels spin together. Then, as you suggest, the tires can't support any sideways loading and the back end comes around.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dhayner
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wow~

OEM S02 + cold weather + too much gas = spin

sounds very familiar now ...

 

So, in case there might be a next time. What would you recommend to do when the rear starts to slide out like that?

 

I've had some "fun" with my Blizzaks now and then this winter doing similar gymnastics. But I haven't let it get away from me. Last time was similar to yours - hard right turn and lots of gas. Whoa! Rear end starts around. I countersteer and ease up on the gas enough to recover grip. That time the revovery was quick enough that it started going too far right which I then corrected. At least this is what I think I did. I usually just react without thinking about what I'm doing, but I started driving on RWD cars and have always lived in parts of the country with snow. For what that's worth...

 

I just did a car control class at Skip Barber and we did exercises on a wet skidpad and we worked on correcting oversteer. It was really fun . Anyway, if your rear end is starting to slide out, get your feet off all pedals. Then do CPR - correct, pause, recover.

Correct - Look where you want to go, hands should move fast and keep you pointing in the right direction.

Pause - after correcting your slide, there will be a momentary pause. Tires will start getting grip again. You need to recovery immediately after the pause.

Recover - you need to turn the wheels straight again. again, hands are moving fast in the other direction. You will start turning in the other direction if you don't straighten the wheel quick enough

Once you are pointing in the right direction, you can apply the gas. You can apply light throttle during the pause phase and get a nice power slide. If you apply too much throttle, you will spin. The best thing to do is to stay off the gas until you are moving in the right direction.

 

i am no expert .. but

getting your feet off all pedals in a spin out won't induce more lift-throttle over steer?

or should you just easy out of the throttle just a little bit?

just wondering?

 

ok. I probably didn't say that correctly. The idea is that you don't want to change your current pedal controls instantly if your rear end is sliding out. The problem I had was that I kept pressing the gas or brake pedals when the rear end started to slide out. The instructor told me to put my feet on the floor and I was able to correct the slide without spinning. It is probably easier and safer to slowly let off the throttle and concentrate on correcting the slide, rather than having your foot on the pedal, with the possibility of adding more input than necessary.

Once everything is pointed in the right direction, then you can get on the throttle.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FormerH22a4
When I was spinning around it was like slow motion.

exactly what happend when i spun out. scary $hit. glad nothing happend.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by GDPzS2000

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Originally posted by FormerH22a4
When I was spinning around it was like slow motion.

exactly what happend when i spun out. scary $hit. glad nothing happend.

yeah felt like Tom Cruise in MI 2 but he was on a bike.