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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Third time is a charm?
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Caddy,

Funny how you say how relaxed you are when you are driving hard. Mentioning that you are listening to Elliot Smith only makes me think that you have a lack of respect for life just like he did. If you want to kill your self, go out the way Elliot did. He did not risk the life of others. Otherwise, drive like a respectible S2000 owner on the road and save pushing the limit for the track.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HydnHood,Sep 10 2005, 07:05 PM
I would say the insurance for this car should be pretty age dependant. With massive rates for the young and normal rates for for use geez...err experianced folks.
And what about us younger folks who haven't contributed to the high insurance rates? I guess we should get bent over with the rest? Seems like a blanket solution for something that isn't a blanket problem.

Not to mention the fact that younger people may have a harder time affording massive insurance charges, simply by virtue of "where we are in life". It would seem that you're talking about an across the board change that would affect any automobile driven by a younger person, which would mean that we'd have to pay higher rates on a civic, let alone an S.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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After reading several of the original poster's attempts to reframe both the series of accidents as well as his current view of his "issues", I am of the opinion that he is Charlie xxxx reincarnate.

Charlie and I raced flat track and scrambles motorcycles in the '60s. He was pretty fast when he stayed up, but he didn't stay up all that often. His hero was a guy named Ernie Stalions. Ernie was a quiet guy who rode like there was no tomorrow and, for reasons that I could never understand always looked like he was on the verge of crashing, but very rarely did. It wasn't pretty, but he got around the track faster than most on a regular basis.

Charlie seemed to think that, if Ernie could do it, then Charlie could also. Problem was that Ernie never really rode over his head, he just looked like he was riding over his head. Charlie, on the other hand was over his head frequently and one day actually lost his head altogether.

Nope, not a metaphor. He was decapitated one night at the Lodi Cycle Bowl while doing a plug check. He wanted to cut the ignition at the highest RPM and under load so he started running the bike full out up on a levee that was unlighted. I (and others) had warned him that riding that fast in the dark was insane, but he would have none of that. He hit a cable stretched across the levee road and that was the end of Charlie.

Charlie had crashed quite often before he was killed. After each crash he would start out by calling attention to his "feat". He would start out his version of what happened with all these mixed messages; alternately sounding like he was really proud of the part of the ride up until the crash and then, of course, having survived the crash. Then, when people would begin to look at him like he was a complete idiot, he would start to get serious and talk about needing to come to grips with whatever caused him to ride out of control. Unfortunately, he would often revert back to the bravado stuff, often within the same sentence that he had started out sounding like he was about to learn something.

Charlie didn't have a death wish. He was just an almost talented guy who didn't have his shit together enough to realize that he didn't know what he didn't know about his limitations.

I miss Charlie. Ernie, on the other hand, turned 79 a few months ago.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 05:51 AM
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Lets all hope this is not the case w/ my friend ....i would like to see him down the road life , safe , happy and in control. Truly think this is the case ,as i feel my friend has learned a lesson. Might not look that way but belive me ...hes sorry about losing his S . I myself would like to see him get another S , so we can RACE ...@ the track of couse

Life has been good to me , race often , have alot of seat time racing both atuo/x/road course and drag racing .... never crashed so like Erine my 79th should be great . Hope i make it to 79 , now thats a gift
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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god thats crazy
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Can't quite get why the guy's so cavalier about this... He did something stupid and got nailed for it, TWICE! Oh sure I did my share of dumb stuff and all so I'm not not trying to be all high and mighty here but how on this God's green earth did he ever think this was a good idea?

*shakes head* not good.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by phillys2k,Sep 13 2005, 07:23 AM
god thats crazy
insane
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